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wotayottie
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Re: Bilge keelers, which sail best? [Re: Rosbif]
      #1912777 - 30/06/2008 18:39

got a Moody 336 bilge keeler. We beat the Sadler 29 on handicap in anything but very heavy winds, and rate about the same as a Hunter 30. The latter is a fast boat but pretty light - wouldnt want to be in one in a blow. There are no Westerlies in our club races but I wouldnt expect any problems except for the Fulmar or Storm.

FWIW a surveyor once told me that Sadlers were not the best built of Brit boats but any probs would be apparent by now. Good sea boat.


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Re: Bilge keelers, which sail best? [Re: Allan]
      #1912862 - 30/06/2008 19:28

Many thanks for all of your replies, very helpful. I like the idea of the RM but my bank manager objects! I would like an aft cabin, which, I think precludes the Sadler 29 or 32. I have decided against Hunters as they are, in my opinion, a little light for my sailing areas of the Bristol channel and Irish sea. I think legs are fine for a overnight but I plan to leave the boat at times where it will dry out.
Any further comments would be welcome.
Allan

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Re: Bilge keelers, which sail best? [Re: Allan]
      #1912886 - 30/06/2008 19:42

I have a Westerly Fulmar, and a share in a Westerly Konsort, the Fulmar is much the better for sailing.

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Re: Bilge keelers, which sail best? [Re: asj1]
      #1913096 - 30/06/2008 21:56


Not wishing to start an argument but "touch heavy on the helm when pressed hard, but thats the way it is with bilge keelers" I beg to differ sir!
I was out there in the Solent on Sunday beating all the way back from Cowes in F5+ in a Hunter23 with 2 reefs and a couple of turns around the jib and it was perfectly balanced even when we dipped the leeward rail in.


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Re: Bilge keelers, which sail best? [Re: Allan]
      #1913187 - 30/06/2008 22:59

Not sure what HJunter you are thinking of, but the 32/323 is a substantial boat - sometimes referred to as a modern "Contessa 32"

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Re: Bilge keelers, which sail best? [Re: whipper_snapper]
      #1913201 - 30/06/2008 23:10

I have dried out my RM880 twice. The first time on Bembridge beach which was perfect and the second time I accidently dried out in Newtown Creek at the edge of the channel and got woken up in the early morning with the boat in this state....



Ended up at just over 20 degrees of lean, when it completely dried out. No problem just not able to sleep anymore.


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Re: Bilge keelers, which sail best? [Re: Allan]
      #1913230 - 30/06/2008 23:34

Without a doubt the Mirage 29 later called the 30.5 is a bilge keeler that would out sail anything westerly produced, it could also take the ground for years without damage. They're getting a bit old now - 1986 was the last - but they were very sturdy boats and worth a look. Strictly speaking they were not bilge keelers like the small snapdragons, but twin keelers.

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SirSnoozalot
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Re: Bilge keelers, which sail best? [Re: Marsupial]
      #1913250 - 30/06/2008 23:54

Have you thought about a drop keel boat: eg. Southerly, Feeling etc.

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Allan
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Re: Bilge keelers, which sail best? [Re: SirSnoozalot]
      #1913309 - 01/07/2008 01:25

My last boat was an Etap 22i so I am a fan of lift keels. I just don't like the idea of leaving a boat which puts fibreglass onto the ground.
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Re: Bilge keelers, which sail best? [Re: Allan]
      #1913775 - 01/07/2008 20:11

Allan, sent you a pm

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