jfm
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Aug 2008 was a good issue i thought. I enjoyed the detail on displacement speed chunky trawler yachts (yep, i know i need therapy Magnum  ) . And they did a decent Waterbuoy test showing it worked pretty well, within limits
Couple of duff bits though:
1. The Mystery Skipper on page 124 is preposterous. Who is the unnamed "stig" skipper who writes this stuff? Is he taking MBY for a ride? No 80 foot charter boat would ever be moored in a marina and then ALL its crew go to a nightclub while the boat is on charter. And no charter crew on an 80 footer would ALL go to bed while the guests are ashore drinking, leaving the guests to return to the boat, board it and go to their cabins while ALL crew are asleep. That's just completely absurd. Hugo, who is this columnist? You're being ripped off. His previous columns have been equally implausible, though i can't remeber the specifics. It makes you and the magzine look like you know nowt about big boats. Get a real captain to write you some great stories. (Or should I be yelling at Alan Harper? Does he edit this bit?)
2. Talking of Alan Harper, are journalists allowed to make things up? AH writes about his trip on a superyacht on p39. He doesn't name the boat but the photo clearly shows it's the 70m Lurssen Martha Ann. AH writes that he sailed (on Martha Ann) into Cannes old port, and that he looked across to the other marina (Port Canto, very close by, just along Cannes beach) and saw Nabila (now called Kingdom 5KR) moored there.
Now, Martha Ann was launched in very late 2007 in Germany, and after sea trials she sailed to the Med for the first time, passing Gibraltar (my friend saw her there) in early May 2008. After that she docked in Antibes IYCA for a bit in May 2008, then she was in Cannes old port in approx the 1st/2nd week of June 2008. So, AH must have been on her in the 1st/2nd week of June, right? Now, Nabila/Kingdom5KR went into dry dock in Marseille (100miles away from Cannes) in 2nd week of April 2008, and she only left Marseille last Wednesday 25 June (a friend of mine works on the boat that has been alongside her in the Marseille the whole time and confirmed this to me) and sailed straight to her Antibes berth, where she has been since. I saw her there yesterday.
So, Martha Ann only arrived in the Med AFTER Nabila/Kingdom 5KR went into Marseille drydock, and Nabila/Kingdom 5KR only left Marseille last Wednesday (after MBY was printed) so how could AH to have been on board Martha Ann looking across at Nabila? So he made all this up, right?
Quite happy to be told off, corrected and publicly beaten up by AH, if I'm wrong. AH, can you post an explanation please? Are journos allowed to make things up? Masaccio what's the score here? I think I'd like my £4.10 back please :-)
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MapisM
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I enjoyed the detail on displacement speed chunky trawler yachts
Any chance to get a hint on most interesting points reported here?
I can rarely find MBY around here (except in airports, but I don't have any flight planned till the end of july).
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jfm
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They did a detailed review of Nordhavn 55 and Selene 66 (the Selene is photgraphed in and around La Napoule, France). PM me your email address and I'll email you colour scan
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The Mystery Skipper on page 124 is preposterous. Who is the unnamed "stig" skipper who writes this stuff? Is he taking MBY for a ride? No 80 foot charter boat would ever be moored in a marina and then ALL its crew go to a nightclub while the boat is on charter. And no charter crew on an 80 footer would ALL go to bed while the guests are ashore drinking, leaving the guests to return to the boat, board it and go to their cabins while ALL crew are asleep. That's just completely absurd. Hugo, who is this columnist? You're being ripped off. His previous columns have been equally implausible, though i can't remeber the specifics.
There was the one where the Mystery Skipper set up a honey trap for a bigheaded colleague and when the victim sweatily removed his breeks ready for some rumpy pumpy, they all jumped out and yelled "You've been done". An amusing enough studenty prank but not much to do with boats (or grown-ups).
Then there was the one where the engineer bought a hooky Rolex. (Only Fools & Horses, series 2: episode 3, iirc)
And the dumb oily who switched off the genny and sealed himself in the engine room as the engines sucked out the air. Door opened inwards, see.
And the fat american kid with masters of the universe parents who turned out to be quite nice after all.
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Wasn't there one where the skipper woke up in a bath of ice to find a note saying his kidney had been stolen, too?
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And the dumb oily who switched off the genny and sealed himself in the engine room as the engines sucked out the air. Door opened inwards, see.
Somewhat impossible when you think about it. The engines would/could create a partial vacuum but they wouldn't suck the oxygen out of the remaining air so the dimwit would be in a slightly low pressure atmosphere but hardly enough to make him pass out...
Besides, I thought the fans circulated air to keep the donks cool, not to feed them air. Anyway, we need more boats with flair (sic) in the bows, IMO.
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MapisM
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Couple of duff bits though
Make it three (at least):
"...the 66 provided the biggest surprises...
...was clearly a little more stable than I'd been expecting...
...a brisk F3 and a 2ft chop, nevertheless the 66 felt very resolute and it handled well."
Phew! Excellent news indeed, for anyone who was wondering if a 63t, 73' trawler could be enough to survive a 2ft chop...
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masaccio
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Hmmm...well, I'm not sure I'm the best person to ask (I've got more points of my Journalistic Licence than Ann Robinson's got on her driving licence), especially as I rarely read MBY these days.
1. While I agree that charter crew shouldn't do such things, it's possible that it sometimes happens, just as the crew of Mirabella V shouldn't really have let her drag onto some rocks while en route to the Monaco Yacht Show a few years back. However, I do admit that the mystery skipper thing does stretch the bounds of credibility at times.
2. You are assuming that the photos in some way relate to the words. This is often, but not always, the case. Sometimes there just aren't the right photos to go with the text, so other photos are used for illustrative effect. I don't know what occurred on this occasion, but don't presume that Alan made it all up...he's one of the better and more honest journos around.
FWIW, journalists aren't allowed to make things up, but it does happen. The days of Woodward and Bernstein are long gone, and we're now just "off-line content providers", filling in the gaps between adverts and selling mags and newspapers by whatever means is necessary (half-truths, misrepresentation, gossip-disguised-as-news, etc). Bitter? Me? Nah...just been in this business 27 years.
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jfm
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:-)
Ref 1, yeah maybe, but kinda strange that a skip would write about it as if it was noraml, how things were done. Like the Mirabella crew writing "Yeah well we needed to park and found these handy rocks off Cap Ferrat that the keel would slot into nicely, so we jammed it in there for a few days bla bla..." as if it was the most normal thing in the world.
Ref item 2, AH said (iirc, dont have the mag in front of me, I'm in sunny Birmingham today) he was on a new German yacht tied up in Cannes old port. The boat in the pic was Martha Ann, a Lurssen, tied up to the outer mole in Cannes. So I kinda did take the liberty of thinking the pic was connected with the words :-)
To be honest, I think AH wasn't making stuff up, he was just a bit mixed up. If he had looked across to Port Canto, he would have seen Montkaj moored in Nabila/Kingdom5KR's berth, and Montkaj is ever so slightly creamy white. So I think he saw Montkaj and thought it was Nabila/K5KR. Which is a bit like the editor of Car mag saying he saw a new Lambo when in fact it was a Bentley but not actually making stuff up... I still think I'm due say £2.05p back :-)
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masaccio
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Considering you offered to breach IPC's copyright by emailing MapisM a copy of the Nordhavn/Selene article, I should let your £2.05 go if I were you 
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