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BrendanS
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Re: Strobe lights- a mariners request. [Re: bilbobaggins]
      #1916960 - 04/07/2008 01:04

Then carry heavy duty guns, and shoot them?

Kettle on, job done. No one will ever know

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Re: Strobe lights- a mariners request. [Re: Woodentop]
      #1917003 - 04/07/2008 06:45

It's probably a little naiive to think that in a real emergency you are going to have time to hit the flasher switch.

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Re: Strobe lights- a mariners request. [Re: Woodentop]
      #1917008 - 04/07/2008 06:51

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As a numpty who drives far too fast on motorways I use my brake lights to inform the car behind that I am slowing down and my hazard lights to inform the car behind that I am slowing down far faster than he expects.

This is so that the terribly sensible person behind me does not slam into my stationary car because he was driving well inside the speed limit but did not expect to find a stationary car in front of him.




These two paragraphs are contradictory, are they not? In the first you say you use your hazard warning lights to indicate you are slowing faster than the followers might expect, and in the second you say it is to avoid others running into you when stationary. Which is it?

Would it not be better to stay legal and drive within whatever speed limit is in force and not use the flashers for illegal purposes?

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Cornishman
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Re: Strobe lights- a mariners request. [Re: Saltyjohn]
      #1917011 - 04/07/2008 07:00

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Strobes are only illegal in the sense that they are not navigation lights




I would draw your attention to Rule 36 "Signals to attract attention"
the last line of which says,
For the purpose of this Rule the use of high intensity intermittent or revolving lights, such as strobe lights, shall be avoided.

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Re: Strobe lights- a mariners request. [Re: bilbobaggins]
      #1917014 - 04/07/2008 07:12

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....something was done - which may have made the miscreants think we might possibly be some form of police boat - and the bloggers bloggered off sharpish! The strobe was switched off, and the kettle put on. Job done.




Exactly how I see it. One off, brief use.


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Re: Strobe lights- a mariners request. [Re: Cornishman]
      #1917017 - 04/07/2008 07:14

I use my hazard warning lights to warn of a hazard - I thought that is what they were for. Am I wrong ?

A hazard includes very slow or stationary traffic on a wet dark motorway with several 100 tons of steel rapidly closing on my rear.

If that makes me a numpty - I am a numpty.

(As for strobes on masts; I agree with the OP!)


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Re: Strobe lights- a mariners request. [Re: Cornishman]
      #1917039 - 04/07/2008 08:04

I'm quite familiar with the Colregs, thanks. As you note the words are ...'shall be avoided', not 'are prohibited'.
The overriding intention of the Colregs is to avoid collision at sea and, as noted by others, you are required to use any means at your disposal to avoid collision.
My point was that flashing a strobe to identify yourself is not illegal; using a strobe as a navigation light when you are not entitled to (hovercraft etc) is illegal.
You can buy Solas approved life jacket and personal strobes so someone thinks thay are good for attracting attention, which was the entire point of my posting.

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Re: Strobe lights- a mariners request. [Re: Login_name]
      #1917046 - 04/07/2008 08:14

Quote:

Quote:

....something was done - which may have made the miscreants think we might possibly be some form of police boat - and the bloggers bloggered off sharpish! The strobe was switched off, and the kettle put on. Job done.




Exactly how I see it. One off, brief use.





I would completely agree. But, anyone who sails on the Solent knows what would happen if strobes were commonly fitted. How many boats do you see with mastehead tri, bow bicolour, mast white stern white, all on at the same time! Do you think they would not turn on the strobe as well if they had one!


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Re: Strobe lights- a mariners request. [Re: whipper_snapper]
      #1917049 - 04/07/2008 08:19

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I would completely agree. But, anyone who sails on the Solent knows what would happen if strobes were commonly fitted. How many boats do you see with mastehead tri, bow bicolour, mast white stern white, all on at the same time! Do you think they would not turn on the strobe as well if they had one!




ColRegs could be modified easily enough. This lighting configuration would mean "Idiot on board".


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anteak
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Re: Strobe lights- a mariners request. [Re: capnsensible]
      #1917055 - 04/07/2008 08:35

My view is that extremely powerful strobe lights should be fitted, by law, to every boat.

The light would be activated only when the red button on the VHF DSC is hit. Until that switch is hit, the strobe would be disabled.

Any boat displaying a strobe light would therefore be in a MAYDAY situation and require immediate assistance.

Or is that too simplistic?

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