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blackbess2
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keep an eye on ebay
      #1835181 - 23/04/2008 22:38

we at the eling sailing club had our youth training rib stolen and last week the motor appeared on ebay so i called the seller of the nicked gear and hey presto with a call to the old bill we recovered the engine and the scrot got his collor felt POWER TO THE PEOPLE i dont wish to maline ebay its a good site but the A******es who are taking our gear are selling on the site

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channelyacht
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Reged: 25/12/2007
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Re: keep an eye on ebay [Re: blackbess2]
      #1836994 - 25/04/2008 11:06

Have you put a note on the boats stolen section of rib.net as well?

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golden14
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Re: keep an eye on ebay [Re: channelyacht]
      #1869361 - 23/05/2008 16:32

BUT and it is a big BUT people, ebay WILL NOT respond to any other enquiry reference anything stolen Boat/car/etc unless the e-mail request comes from a valid law enforcement officer/police. My stolen boat was sold on ebay but they will only speak to the police, so even if it's on a 7 day auction, unless the police contact ebay within this time, and ebay respond within this time then kiss your stolen goods gooodbye :-( (£14k down the drain)
Legalised theft? Welcome to ebay :-) Still want to sell anything on there?

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teddington_lock
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Re: keep an eye on ebay [Re: golden14]
      #1901261 - 20/06/2008 08:08

The seller and the buyer will still be registered with a name and address on Ebay though , Ebay will still have their details ?

So even if the boat is sold , Plod can still catch the thief surely ?

Provided you have a crime number and can prove that you own the boat , they go round and nick the seller , and then pop round to the buyer and take the boat back.

If you have been paid out by your insurance company , the boat becomes theirs , if you weren't insured , the boat comes back to you .

Why would the police need to do it within seven days ?

If the buyer of your boat fails to co-operate , they will nick him for receiving stolen goods surely ? It's still your boat , regardless of how many times it has been sold on ...

The point is , Ebay still have the peoples details, so it wouldn't take Clouseau to track them down.


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bobgosling
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Re: keep an eye on ebay [Re: blackbess2]
      #1917524 - 04/07/2008 13:29


Outbid the other interested parties with a silly amount.

Wait for the seller to contact you and insist on handing over cash face-to-face, then go along with a police officer.


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Scubeydo
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Re: keep an eye on ebay [Re: teddington_lock]
      #1935075 - 20/07/2008 19:24

Sorry to disappoint you but if somone buys your nicked gear on ebay and has bought it in good faith they have a claim of right to it and you may not get it back. It may well end up in the court for a decision to be made as to who gets it.

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PARSONSHEATH
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Re: keep an eye on ebay [Re: Scubeydo]
      #1936272 - 21/07/2008 20:43

I do not agree, you can only take the legal title that the seller has, so if you buy from a thief it does not belong to you in law and must be returned to the lawful owner.

Even worse, if you have spent a shedful of cash on improvements you can wave goodby to that cash as you have no recall against the lawful owner.


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Scubeydo
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Re: keep an eye on ebay [Re: PARSONSHEATH]
      #1936427 - 21/07/2008 22:27

Correct, you cannot assume legal title. BUT if any person acquires property honestly and with a belief that the seller had the right to sell it then the person acquiring it MAY have a claim to title. The only way it can be sorted out is in the court.
Example - car is stolen by A from B. A sells it to C who buys it in good faith with documentation and has no reason to believe it has been stolen. It cannot be automatically taken from C and returned to B because C can claim legal title. (Although this frequently happens). The final outcome can only be determined by a court.
Advice - if you ever get the police come round and tell you you have bought stolen property and they demand that you give it up - tell them to go away (politely). Provided you have bought the property honestly and in good faith you may hang onto it until a court decides who is the rightful owner. Of course if you do this you cannot sell or dispose of it or you may be guilty of handling stolen property.


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