JonJon
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My Sun Fizz does not have swept back spreaders so presumably if I take the back stay off the mast will fall down. This prevents my being lifted out with a crane, spreader frame and slings (unless I take the mast down of course). The lowers might provide some support for the mast but it doesnt look very good to me. Leaving the back stay on runs the risk of interference with the crane wires. I have always previously been lifted out on a cradle lift. Anybody any thoughts on this - it would be convenient to be lifted out with a crane but seems too large a risk.
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alldownwind
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I and many others at the same yard have had boats with backstays lifted twice a year for years by crane, with no problems at all.
Probably comes down to how experienced the crane driver is and how much you trust the yard!
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JonJon
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So what supports the mast when you remove the backstay?
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alldownwind
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That's my point, we don't remove the backstay.
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JonJon
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Ah gotcha - sorry misread your post. So just a case of being careful with the crane wire.
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Boat44
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We have to remove our backstay, but we have runners that we use to keep the mast up.
Just use the topping lift and or main halyard back 1/2 way; back to either the mainsheet track if convenient or toe rail or rig a briddle from toerail to toerail with an eye in the middle.
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Tranona
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can't see a problem. Many yards use cranes and don't remove the backstay. If a proper spreader is used there should be no conflict.
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JonJon
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It may be possible to design a spreader frame for use with a very tall crane that doesnt interfere with the back stay during a lift but I havent seen one (this could just be my ignorance of course) but the basic problem is you have to pick the boat / spreader frame up along the boat for and aft centreline with a crane hook. But guess what - thats where the backstay is, you cant come to one side or the other without unbalancing the lift. It would appear lots of people do it but how do I know a yard in ITaly has the expertise to do it _ I can always ask and no doubt they will tell me Si no problem but......
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JonJon
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Thanks, This sounds like a solution what sort of boat do you have?
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BobnLesley
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My Sun Fizz does not have swept back spreaders
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Neither does our Vega, nor thousands of other yachts; but if you disconnect the backstay, the mast won't immediately fall over. We were craned in and out for several years without a problem, the lowers providing adequate support for the duration of the craning operation. We never had the backstay down in high winds admittedly, but I wouldn't fancy being craned in a F5/6 anyway.
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