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webcraft
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Bottom frame missing - incorrect URL
      #218832 - 06/05/2002 16:54

It's 16:54, Monday May 6th

The bottom frame is not displaying because the URL is

res://C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\SHDOCLC.DLL/dnserror.htm#http://www.ybw.com/botnav/ybwex4.htm

It should be http://www.ybw.com/botnav/ybwex4.htm

(Which IS working).

Someone somewhere has been updating the site and has scrambled the paths . . .

- Nick




BlueMoment.Com
http://www.bluemoment.com


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webcraft
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Re: Bottom frame missing - incorrect URL [Re: webcraft]
      #218851 - 06/05/2002 19:49

Sworking now (19.50)

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jonjo
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Re: Wrong diagnosis [Re: webcraft]
      #218886 - 06/05/2002 21:30

I have experienced the same problem at this site as you have.

However the C:\ drive URL you quoted is where your browser aborts to when it decides a web page is unreachable. The source frameset page on the yachting monthly server was probably valid all the time.

There are growing performance problems with yachtingmonthly.com and their choice of Internet software technology does not help matters.

On a different issue, does anyone get hit by object not found/null messages?



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halcyon
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Re: Wrong diagnosis [Re: jonjo]
      #218889 - 06/05/2002 21:37

Yes


Brian



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HaraldS
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Re: Wrong diagnosis [Re: jonjo]
      #218892 - 06/05/2002 21:45

I get an increasing amount of timeouts over the last week or so. It took me 5 retries to get into this posting screen. It is now very hard to use.
Do you notice the same or is it dependant from where I access?



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webcraft
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Re: Wrong diagnosis [Re: jonjo]
      #218896 - 06/05/2002 21:52

You are of course absolutely right . . .

Somehow this fact had escaped me - just when I thought I knew everything, as well!!

I haven't experienced any other technical problems with the forums - although they do slow down occasionally. Overall I have been reasonably impressed with the performance. Don't use the rest of the site much, so can't comment.

As for internet technology - it's a bit of a minefield, isn't it? Everyone thinks the system they use or sell is the best . . . objective data, however, is hard to come by. Most software (and hardware) is sold by men with perms in stripy suits who have no idea how it works and would be just as happy selling fridges to the eskimos.

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halcyon
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Re: Wrong diagnosis [Re: webcraft]
      #218901 - 06/05/2002 22:18

Known as progress, when the wife worked for one of the major american manufactures in the 70's /80's, they designed and wrote all there own software, funny thing is that to-day we are not that much further advanced.

Brian



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jonjo
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Re: Wrong diagnosis [Re: HaraldS]
      #218917 - 06/05/2002 23:27

> It took me 5 retries to get into this posting screen. It is now very hard to use.

Same here, it has got to the point now where a thread has to appear very interesting before I browse or post.

> Do you notice the same or is it dependant from where I access?

From Demon Internet (home) use of this site is frustrating, from work it is sluggish but the work connection is 60 times faster than an ISDN connection.



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jonjo
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Re: Wrong diagnosis [Re: halcyon]
      #218919 - 06/05/2002 23:35

> Yes

I suspect like me you are using IE5.5 or greater.

The wizzkids at Microsoft introduced a multi-threaded page rendering mechanism at 5.5 and broke lots of framed web sites around the world.

The error messages are caused by cross-frame JavaScript references and trigger more frequently as the site slows down. It took us months to eliminate these problems in our system at work.



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Re: Wrong diagnosis [Re: webcraft]
      #218924 - 06/05/2002 23:46

> As for internet technology - it's a bit of a minefield, isn't it? Everyone thinks the
> system they use or sell is the best . . .

Well yes. I am not trying to promote a specific technical solution but I think it is fair to say that cgi/Perl is not a solution to use when performance is a prime objective.

Given the current situation I think the answer is a server upgrade and/or more hosting bandwidth. It seems YachtingMonthly.com is a victim of its own success.



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