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jhr
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Re: Why is boaty diesel tax free? [Re: Talon]
      #468570 - 09/02/2004 15:46

It's a difficult one to argue against. As you say, it won't impress many people, other than fellow boaters, to be told that we like paying less for fuel and therefore that it should continue to be tax free.

I suspect that this is the reason why public debate and lobbying has mostly revolved round the damage that would be done to the economy by a sharp downturn in the boating industry - lots of people out of work, many of them in the South East etc. etc. Politicians have long memories (except when it suits them ) and it may be that some of the old timers remember the fall out from increasing VAT on boats as a luxury item in the 70's.

But really, and trying to be dispassionate about it, there's no logic to tax free diesel for leisure boaters, so I guess we should enjoy it whilst we can, and hope that it continues to be a sensitive subject for politicians for some time to come.

You wouldn't enjoy helicopters, btw: fast, noisy things that pitch and jerk around, making you feel ill and emptying your wallet. On the other hand...............
Je suis Marxiste - tendance Groucho


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Re: Join the RYA fight for red diesel [Re: lc]
      #468701 - 09/02/2004 18:49

Done mine and sent link to all in my club.

:-)


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PGD
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Re: Join the RYA fight for red diesel [Re: Dave_Snelson]
      #468702 - 09/02/2004 18:49

hi now they are on the database you can add votes for them

peter
Complete the Consumer Survey http://www.mssa.org.uk Marine Service Standards Assistance


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Englander
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Re: Join the RYA fight for red diesel [Re: lc]
      #468708 - 09/02/2004 18:58

Why not just make the diesel for boats and cars/trucks the same in UK as it is in the rest of europe? Diesel for farmers and fishing boats in Europe is tax free, why should liesure boats have tax free diesel? Has it stopped the boating industries in Holland or France?



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Re: Join the RYA fight for red diesel [Re: Englander]
      #468716 - 09/02/2004 19:06

how many farmer boat owners have Bowsers?


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Englander
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Re: Join the RYA fight for red diesel [Re: sailorman]
      #468719 - 09/02/2004 19:07

Where?



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longjohnsilver
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Oi!! [Re: Englander]
      #468746 - 09/02/2004 19:33

Bloody foreigner, keep your nose out of this domestic issue! Nowt to do with you!

PS Dollar still weakening, should make diesel even cheaper, shame about our overseas workers paid in greenbacks!


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Re: Oi!! [Re: longjohnsilver]
      #468749 - 09/02/2004 19:35

Just watch yer lip you! Or I\ll be asking for donations in five gallon containers when you visit! 80 euro cents a litre in Spain. But the dollar is taking a real bashing!!



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oldgit
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Re:Still value for money fun. [Re: Talon]
      #468751 - 09/02/2004 19:38

I doubt that many here will have their boats up for sale due to harmonization of fuel duties.
I would guess that the annual fuel bill of most is not a large percentage of the following.
Insurance
Maintaince
Mooring fees
Gadgets bought
Depreciation
Interest on any loan payments
Income lost when out on boat when should have been at work etc.

If it aint broke fix it till it is.


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Talon
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Re:Still value for money fun. [Re: oldgit]
      #468762 - 09/02/2004 19:49

Hmm, not sure about that one:

Insurance - £500
Maintaince - £1500
Mooring fees - £3700 (big one)
Gadgets bought - None
Depreciation - None I hope.....
Interest on any loan payments - None
Income lost when out on boat when should have been at work etc. - None

Fuel at new price at least £2000 per year! It is definitely going to hurt, I pay less the £1k per annum at the moment!

Is it not a case of all boat owners vote Labour out and that will be the end of it
Alex


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