MedDreamer
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Reged: 10/09/2002
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Loc: York
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Don't want to be a pedantic accountant here but there is a funding cost to your boat. ie the amount your money would be earning if you had invested it rather than used it to purchase your boat.
I know, I know I need to get out more................................
Martyn
The Dream is Alive
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adarcy
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Reged: 31/08/2001
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Axshually,
I think red diesel exemption was more the difficulty in fitting in a taxed area between subsidised fishermen and ships which could/can bunker anywhere in the world. They certainly will not fill up in a taxed area so it makes more sense to have the business here than export it. The same applies, but obviously to a lesser extent, with avgas for planes. If they're not transocean, they can choose where to refuel on their itinery.
Now that the greenies have arisen and probably a lot more diesel is used for leisure, tax looks more inviting to the taxers and b***er the consequences. The real sting in the tail is, of course, our outlandishly high road fuel duty. It is only 10 years ago when we used to wonder how the French were able to afford so much for their car fuel - now it's cheap especially diesel.
If it hits 90p/Lit it would be worth our while nipping over to France to fill up - nice trip good food + wine and a spit in the face of G Brown but I suspect the real consequence would be quite a few of the mobos will just move their boats over to France and save on mooring costs as well. Although some raggies and others would applaud, I don't think the tax rake will be that much and it is worth pointing out that it is only the poorer (marginal in economic speak) boaters or those with smaller boats that will pay it anyway.
Ain't New Socialism great!
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MedDreamer
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Reged: 10/09/2002
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Loc: York
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I don't think that anyone would really cry out "Social Injustice" or point the finger at "new socialism" because a "poor" boatowner will carry an extra tax burden on his leisure activity.
In real terms "poor" cannot be used to describe anyone who has motorboating as a hobby. Look at the unfortunate Chinese workers being exploited for £1 a day - thats "poor" - they weren't out there gambling with their lives worrying about the price of diesel for recreational boaters.
I think we are loosing touch with reality if we feel too badly done to IMHO.
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sailorman
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Reged: 21/05/2003
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Loc: East Coast
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NO THEY FILL-UP IN BELGIUM
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longjohnsilver
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Reged: 30/05/2001
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Loc: Devon
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Wot the hell have they to do with the price of red diesel??!! Almost certainly illegal immigrants being exploited by triad gangs, also illegal!
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sailorman
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Reged: 21/05/2003
Posts: 10371
Loc: East Coast
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yes but did the landrover stuck in the sand (still) have number plates, were they driving with tax, ins, m.o.t, bald tyres et al
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Powerskipper
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Reged: 18/09/2003
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Loc: dorset/ Hampshire. south coast
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done one too
Julie ,
IMOSHO of course,
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Jim44
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Reged: 09/09/2003
Posts: 507
Loc: York
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Filled in the form, not sure if i answered correctly to help save cheap diesel, can anybody tell me what the "correct answers" are??
Should I use alot of or a little fuel? etc...
The other choice is to fill up your "heating fuel tanks" with heating oil, very similar to diesel i understand, and say that the 1200 litre are for the Espacher!!!!
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peterdenning
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Reged: 05/10/2001
Posts: 775
Loc: Surrey & boat in Dorset. Both...
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My boat has a petrol outboard. I want 'tax reduced' petrol
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BarryD
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Reged: 10/09/2001
Posts: 1388
Loc: Bathtub
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Filled it in for you (you never know) I will be back boating soon. However "no change" my vote, it's a minor cost to owning and running a boat - born free and taxed to death!
Or then again...
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