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Re: Furious! NT response [Re: Dave_Snelson]
      #819374 - 09/09/2005 16:51

Dave, they aren't even civil servants. The organisation's a bloody charity. The public's donations pay these jobsworths to dictate how, where and when we can access land that was entrusted to them.

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Re: Furious! NT response [Re: Dave_Snelson]
      #819376 - 09/09/2005 16:52

Actually the NT and its management has been one of my bugbears for a very long time. The NT is actually a registed charity with no democratic control or accountability.

The Governance Structure is or will be soon

A small Board of Trustees made up of about 12 members with the very best balance of skills and expertise. It will be responsible for the running of the charity and for making sure that the organisation works as well as possible to deliver its core purposes. The majority of the Board of Trustees will also be Council members.

A strong, representative Council which will appoint the trustees and make sure they discharge their responsibilities properly. As now, the Council will be made up of 52 members, 26 elected by the members of the National Trust and 26 appointed by organisations whose interests coincide in some way with those of the National Trust.

I feel such a huge organisation purporting to serve the public interest should have a more open and democratically accountable management structure.


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Re: Furious! NT response [Re: Wiggo]
      #819377 - 09/09/2005 16:55

Maybe YBW could do a little article on the NT's beaches and their accessabilty from the water. Get a jobsworth from the NT to comment?

For everyone, for ever. Yeah right......

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Re: Furious! NT response [Re: Wiggo]
      #819381 - 09/09/2005 17:00

I think you should get an ASBO just think of the damage your dinghy could cause if one of the naturist got his dick round yer prop, and I dread to think what might happen if some woman fell on yer anchor.

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Re: Furious! NT response [Re: Wiggo]
      #819396 - 09/09/2005 17:20

The first quote is just bad english and as such meaningless. Bad form from the guardians of english heritage!

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Re: Furious! NT response [Re: Wiggo]
      #819411 - 09/09/2005 17:38

Well, I'm going to put my head above the parapet and say that I think that the NT does an excellent job. Just look at the size of its "estate" and ask yourselves why so many people have been prepared to hand over/bequeath their properties for the enjoyment of us all. As was said earlier "For everyone, for ever"; it's not just there to indulge a few boaters.

The rules are no different from the "No picnicing" rules which they understandably have in most of the inland sites. There are many beaches in the Poole area, and you've got boats to get there. Why not?

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Re: Furious! NT response [Re: Wiggo]
      #819412 - 09/09/2005 17:38

think NT got all that jargon from a book on how to reply to people writing to your company with complaints

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Re: Furious! NT response [Re: Joe_Cole]
      #819421 - 09/09/2005 17:45

Ah, well, Joe. The same jobsworth actually went the extra mile, and pointed out that I wasn't welcome by boat on any of the Poole or Bournemouth beaches either. I'm sure they do an excellent job overall, but the Studland lot seem to be particularly zealous, shall we say. Have you read of some of their rather heavy handed tactics with the naturists? See here for a bit of the history. Even the Dorset Police have stopped supporting the NT...

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Re: Furious! NT response [Re: Wiggo]
      #819429 - 09/09/2005 17:53

I haven't read about the nudist problems; it doesn't really interest me what a few so called naturists get up to. I just think that moaning about the NT all the time is a bit OTT. There's plenty of places to go to in a boat; boating doesn't end at Studland!

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Re: Furious! NT response [Re: Joe_Cole]
      #819432 - 09/09/2005 18:00

With all due respect, Joe, I'm not particularly interested in the naturists' problems per se either, but it seems that our dearly beloved NT has decided to take what has historically been a large area of outstanding beauty (which is why we go there, funnily enough) that has enjoyed unrestricted public access, and systematically tried to enforce its own form of political correctness.

No-one's "moaning about the NT all the time". I tried to get a straight answer out of them and have been given a string of confusing and conflicting information, and then told that they were no longer interested in discussing the matter.

Yes, there are plenty of other places to go in a boat, but if this attitude is allowed to take over, all we'll bloody well be able to do is look at them from below MLWS!

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