Joe_Cole
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The problem with Studland is that it is so popular. That's why they have to attempt to control things, otherwise the place becomes overrun. It may not be popular with some interest groups but it has to be done.
It's quite likely that the letter you've had was designed to say exactly what you have read into it. (i.e. "**ss off"; but they can't put it like that!) They don't agree with you, and they don't want to spend more time on the matter. Sorry, but in some ways I can understand their position.
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Stoaty
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Reged: 07/10/2004
Posts: 464
Loc: Medway
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Wiggo I am on your side on this one. Even though Studland is not in my area, it could be the thin end of the wedge.
Am I right in thinking that charities are obliged to give proper answers to questions under the freedom of information act?
Is there a lawyer in the house?
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cliff
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Reged: 15/04/2004
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Loc: various
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Why not organise a mass "invasion" of studland beach from the sea. Say 500 Mobos and yachts all anchored just off the beach then all go ashore in their tenders - can't arrest saw 1500~2000 people can they?
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GC1
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Reged: 25/05/2005
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Loc: k up your daughters
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Why do you need to go to a beach for a BBQ, you have a lovely boat with a nice dining area, if you had a cuddy perhaps so.
Are you saying that you lug all that kit around on your boat (beds, galley, heads) for for nothing then want to go out and stink out other members of the public by BBQing on the beach and peeing in the sea for your self gratification? I am an NT member and have to pay to clean up your mess and rubbish you no doubt leave. Why not have a communal BBQ area on your boat and let all and sundry use it and abuse it as and when they wish and see how you would feel, same principle really.
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Wiggo
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Reged: 10/09/2003
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Not sure on that one. Anyway, she did offer to send me a copy of the byelaws, but wouldn't answer questions such as "What constitutes an offence?" or "What is the definition of a 'conveyance'?" ('Conveyances' are excluded from National Trust land, it seems).
The naturists have been fighting the NT since the early 80's, when they took over the land. The naturist area has been dramatically reduced in size, and at one stage the NT were using the local police to harass the naturists into submission. In the end, the Divisional Superintendent of Dorset Police said they "will no longer be used as 'National Trust Puppets' (his exact words!)"
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Wiggo
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Reged: 10/09/2003
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Errm, actually I didn't go to the beach at all, that was someone else, but as you replied to one of my posts, here we go...
We don't BBQ on board, on the grounds that (IMHO) it's criminally dangerous (have you seen how GRP burns?). To be honest, we hadn't thought of BBQing in the heads or beds either (not sure if you'd light a BBQ in the bog at home, would you?). We 'lug all that kit around' because we use it extensively (more than 100 days aboard last year).
We do BBQ on the beach, and either dispose of the remains in the bins provided, or bag it and take it back to the boat.
We don't 'pee in the sea' for our or anyone else's gratification, as we have a holding tank.
Perhaps you may like to think before posting, next time?
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bob_tyler
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Reged: 16/05/2001
Posts: 1939
Loc: Falmouth, Cornwall, UK 50°09....
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Then the NT will probably find some way of charging an exorbitant anchoring fee and conning those who don't understand the rules.
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duncan
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Reged: 16/05/2001
Posts: 8920
Loc: Home mid Kent - Boat @ Poole
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cliff that would be any normal sunny weekend in August then!
I haven't experienced any problems taking the dingy in to the Southern most beach yet, which is the least family sunbathing orientated one, but can understand the potential issue if all the boats normally anchored there decided to shift over to the more touristy beaches and plonk a tender in the middle.
re the comment about 'go somewhere else' in practice the only places to land families from small craft are either owned by the NT - Brownsea, Shell Bay and Studland or the main Poole / Bournemouth beaches. Compared to the Solent we have quiet a lot of good places really but the NT does have a very large proportion!
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Callisto
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Reged: 06/04/2005
Posts: 431
Loc: Newton Abbot, Devon, UK
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Makes two of us Haydn. I feel exactly the same. A lot of these jumped up tin hitlers need sorting out big time and made to remember that we actually pay their wages.
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BrendanS
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Reged: 11/06/2002
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Loc: Me: Wilts. Boat: Lymington
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But they are not Public Servants, and 'we' don't pay their wages. Actually I do cos I'm a member, but many people seem unaware they are independent of government, and are a charity, and don't have a duty to the general public
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