Jimi
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The problem is that we do not pay their wages. In 2004 their income was as follows
Legacies and gifts £63M
Membership subscriptions £84M
Capital Grants £9M
Property Income £40M
Enterprise Income £75M
Investment Income £21M
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hlb
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It dont make any difference. There all in a position of authority, without any comercial restraint. I've seen it all the way up from the local British legion club comittee, to Tony Blure. With few exceptions, there all folk who failed, or gave up before they started, in the real world. So picked Politics, Charities, or even Scout Master, inorder to persue there chosen perversions. Usually the control of others, with little or no restraint, aided and abetted by there cronies in this new Beurocratic ecconomy based on control. Speed cameras, Trafic Wardens, thought police. None of it voted for, none of them accountable.
They are self procreating. First create more rules/ laws. Then employ more folks to enforce them with zellous behaviour. Loose money, invent more rules/laws to keep there heads above water and so it permitates the whole of society. Health and safety turned me into a jibbering wreck, how many others gave up on british industrie. Move into other areas and it's not long before all the parasites are there again, all hell bent on control.
Left to natural selection, if a road gets to busy, to many parked cars. Folk move to some place else. Same with the beach, you find a clear spot or eventualy stop going and find another place. Trouble is now, nearly every where is controled.
I gave up on Windermere years ago because of NT and there Stalinistic control, looks like there now fighting over the rest of the country with the other slothes.
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BrendanS
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I quite like the way that the NT run most of their properties, and it balances protection with public access, and I've visited many of them. Studland is a bit unusual in their portfolio.
What problems did you have with National Trust in Windermere? I thought most of the issues there were due to other bodies
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hlb
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You used to be able to drive round Windermere, take a picnic, drive off the road into the trees by the lake. Every one spread out, so no one bothering each other. Then they invented WARDENS and put piles of earth between all the trees and forced folk to the PAY AND DISPLAY car park. This created a CROWD, so many more money making and CONTROL situations were created. Every one herded into conrol areas. Think the final nail in the coffin was. We took the dog to an island for a pee. But he swam to a deserted shore. We went to collect him in the dinghy and were emmediatly accosted by a warden for £2 quid. Dont sound much now. But who wants the interference or the contol.
What I like about France is the councils seems to be there fore the people. Hanging baskets, nearly no yellow lines, less absollutly necessary.
It's not as though the beaurocracy of whatever persuasion is actually achiveing anything. Nor does it want to.Why not ban junk mail? No it preferse to charge house holder £1000 for putting it in the wrong bin!
Drive down an autoban, theres picnick areas, small filling stations. Hamburger joints and cafe's. All free to come and go. Here your hearded from one beaurocratic zone to the next. M6 control, Services contol, NT Windermere CONTROL!!
Do you want me to go on???
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BrendanS
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Difference is that France is much bigger than UK, with similar size population, so much less problems with density of population on the whole, with a different approach to EU regulations
I can see the NT approach in Windermere. Their job is to preserve the properties they own, and control of environmental damage is one of the things they have to consider.
That's why in Lake District, there are 'motorways' up Hellveyn and the like, as erosion due to so many walkers was damaging surrounding areas. If it had been left without any work, the damage would have been considerable. You have to face the fact that Lake District is popular. In many ways too popular, and too many people want to go there.
Other places have introduced similar measures. Many national parks try to encourage people not to drive in, and to use public transport etc. Many other countries have similar schemes. Even in places like Alaska, where when I went to one national park, you have to book months in advance, and the controls are strict. All to try and preserve the place so it continues to sustain the environent that makes it look so attractive now
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hlb
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No I think there preseving there own existance and presevation. Not sure they give a toss about the county. (us) But course they believe they are, cos there steaped in there own propaganda.
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BrendanS
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environmental damage at many NT and national park properties is an issue, whether you like it or not, and it's part of their responsibility to manage it.
Can't see how this equates to tenders at Studland though, as this is not an environmental damage issue.
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malcb
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or even Scout Master
I strongly object to this inclusion. Scout Leaders (they have not been called Scout Masters for 30 years)are not in the same category, they are not paid and their role in youth work is completely different to the others included in these postings.
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Joe_Cole
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Do you want me to go on???
No. You're only having a rant because they won't let you take your bucket and spade onto the beach.
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longjohnsilver
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Loc: Devon
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Isn't that what a beach is for?
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