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I remember as a kid we were travelling through Romania. Following my dads job through E. Europe. Anyhow, we pulled over to the side of the road so my mum could take some photographs of Real Romany gypsies!
For payment to them, she turned around to me in the back and took my bag of sweets giving them to the kids. I have never forgiven her or them for this atrocious action, nor my sister who would not then share her sweets with me, as she said 'no, you had some of your own!' (she has not changed much  )
As always there are some photographs!
If they move to your back garden, remind them they owe me some sweets!
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petem
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Shipswoofy, I've reckon I've seen one of them. Does block paving and drives a Porsche Cayenne.
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Wiggo
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Good try, Cliff. Turns out the NT also owns the foreshore, all the way down to MLWS. Which, given how shallowly Studland shelves, is a bloody long way out...
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Wiggo
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It is for us; all of us, not just boaters. The NT is trying to manage things for as many people as possible not just particular interest groups. Personally I think they do an excellent job.
Hit the nail squarely on the head, there, Joe. Although I suspect by accident. Yes, indeed, it is for all of us, not just boaters. Except they seem to think it's for everyone except boaters. That's what gets my goat...
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Planty
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Don't know exactly as never been involved but don't most of these "bequests" come about as a response to death / inheritance tax and a means for a family to retain a home albeit with restrictions on their former freedoms and the need to accept "visitors".
Recent TV prog had a property on their that they had taken over as family could not pay taxes and NT was a way of staying "in residence".
Would be a little surprised if they all left property to NT as they were so good? I used to be a member and found the organisation was on occasion blooming awful.
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lescargot
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......Except they seem to think it's for everyone except boaters. That's what gets my goat...
No, boaters are allowed, they just can't have their boat with them. Just like drivers aren't allowed to have their cars with them.
The numbers of boats on some of the more popular beaches is starting to take over and I think there will be more restrictions soon if it carries on, they are in danger of pushing out other beach users. I went to Mudeford, on the seaward side, on bank holiday monday (by ferry - left the boat in Christchurch) and was hard pushed to find a place to swim safely because of the number of boats.
The small beach at Yarmouth has the right idea. Part of the beach is roped off and out in the water for about 100 yards and boats can land on a seperate section of the beach. I personally don't think boats and swimmers should share the same area under any circumstances - there are too many irresponsible people in both groups.
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Wiggo
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No, boaters are allowed, they just can't have their boat with them. Just like drivers aren't allowed to have their cars with them.
'cept the NT provides car parks for the motorsist, but no tender parking area. And I agree, boats and swimmers don't mix, which is why there's a 6 knot limit within 300m of the beach, and an area where boats are totally banned.
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lescargot
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[...'cept the NT provides car parks for the motorsist, but no tender parking area...
So if you want to go to Studland, go in your car. If you are in your boat, go somewhere else. Newtown for instance - there's no public car park there. You can't go everywhere you want, there are always going to be restrictions and there are a lot of places you can go in a boat that are difficult to get to any other way.
I don't understand this umbilical to a boat, it seems a bit like the people who picnic next to thier car in the car park instead of walking a few hundred yards to get somewhere much more pleasant.
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Wiggo
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So if you want to go to Studland, go in your car. If you are in your boat, go somewhere else. Newtown for instance - there's no public car park there.
There's no landing there by tender, either. Guess what? It's National Trust land...
So, given that we own a boat, and would rather go places by boat than car, would you care to suggest a sandy beach that I can take my children to by tender?
Studland's out, Poole harbour is out, Bournemouth is out. Mudeford may or may not be out, I'm not sure. Can anyone tell me the status of Ryde? Bembridge? Whitecliff Bay? East Head (think that one's NT, too, isn't it)?
There's no 'umbilical to the boat'. I just don't see why the NT should use land designated an SSSI to build a car park on, then exclude a subset of those who don't arrive by car.
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lescargot
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There's no landing there by tender, either. Guess what? It's National Trust land...
The only place with any restriction at Newtown is the Eastern side, it is a nature reserve and military range. You can land on the Western side.
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So, given that we own a boat, and would rather go places by boat than car, would you care to suggest a sandy beach that I can take my children to by tender?...
I own a boat too and if I want to go somewhere that tenders aren't allowed, I park the boat and get there by other means.
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...then exclude a subset of those who don't arrive by car.
They basically only have provision for those who arrive by the main forms of transport - road or foot. An option that is available to everyone, without exception.
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