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  1. #11
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    Default Re: Looking for a Boat but advice needed re the Red Diesel Debacle!

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    you have a 2-week family holiday costing you around £2000-ish. Say 4 on board and that's £500 each. Assuming my maths are about right, then I'm almost convincing myself that it makes financial sense
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    Uncompetitive with sunny fortnight in Majorca via SleazyJet
    Two beers please, my friend is paying.

  2. #12
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    Default Re: Looking for a Boat but advice needed re the Red Diesel Debacle!

    In order to put a brave face on the red diesel issue I also sidestepped any allowance for capital costs, interest rates, depreciation, annual berthing, insurance, and servicing for a 55ft Sunseeker. Too scary to work that one out (£15k-£30k p.a.?) Yep, I think it's safe to assume that big motorboating is probably not the most prudent way to spend one's money!

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    Default Re: Looking for a Boat but advice needed re the Red Diesel Debacle!

    The sums quoted are used by the socialist EU and Grabber Gordon's glove puppet to explain that "these leeches have so much cash they won't notice a bit more on fuel".
    Two beers please, my friend is paying.

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    Default Re: Looking for a Boat but advice needed re the Red Diesel Debacle!

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    and when I checked the specs on this boat it has a tank of 2850 litres!! Am I wrong in assuming that come Nov 2008 it will cost 3 grand to fill her up?

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    Hiya Mark, welcome to YBW forums. I have been interested in this market for the past 2 years and more importantly and not often mentioned is another fundimental.

    How many engines, cruising speed and number of litres an hour per engine.

    I did look at a boat the other week and discovered the fuel consumption was 45 GALLONS per hour at 17 knots cruising (top speed 25 knots! [img]/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

    I created an Excel Spreadsheet to do the maths and I am now looking at a full displacement motor yacht which has a top speed around 6 knots and a tank capacity of 2500 litres with those sort of figures I can expect a range of 2,000 miles. I have a very real reason to go for range over top speed. It might be worth thinking about

    Once you go semi-displacement or full plane, then your fuel will disappear as if being drunk through a straw. [img]/forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img] [img]/forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]

    Good luck
    regards David - DSW Marine Engineering
    www.dswmarineengineering.com

  5. #15
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    Default Re: Looking for a Boat but advice needed re the Red Diesel Debacle!

    True for planing boats as most of them are a handful at displacement speeds for long periods but a good semi-displacement should provide similiar consumption figures at hull speed with the advantage of a turn of speed should it be required.

    Mine certainly does.

  6. #16
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    Default Re: Looking for a Boat but advice needed re the Red Diesel Debacle!

    The downside is at 6 knots it takes an awfully long time to get anywhere, and in the UK with the ofen short good weather windows we have it can mean the difference between having a holiday or being stuck in port, whereas at 20 knots you can cover a lot of distance in a few hours. For example, we had a great summer cruise this year because we had the speed. I remember stopping in Weymouth where the MBM cruiseing club had been stuck for a week in August because some of the boats were too slow and did not want to be out in the rough conditions for a long slow leg whereas the faster boats would have been happy to have made a dash for it, just as we did. I think if we had been stuck in Weymouth for a week the crew would have been a tad unhappy to say the least.

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    Default Re: Looking for a Boat but advice needed re the Red Diesel Debacle!

    Wait a minute! I thought I was Red Diesel...http://www.ybw.com/forums/images/icons/confused.gif
    confused

  8. #18
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    Default Re: Looking for a Boat but advice needed re the Red Diesel Debacle!

    ibelive that the sudden interest of the red diesel by the revinue has got some thing to do with the upsurge of diesel cars on the road. in the last 10 years and no doubt the rise in the use of red diesel, i used to be able to walk into an oil depot and buy 25 litres in a drum, not any more they know that its been used by cars, unscrupolus people will use the cheapest they can, and have you noticed the price of cooking oil going up, its just not a level playing field anymore

  9. #19
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    Default Re: Looking for a Boat but advice needed re the Red Diesel Debacle!

    Brothers separated at birth perhaps?!?!

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