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    Default Whale wars new boat is sinking

    http://www.yachtingmonthly.com/news/...southern-ocean it was bought by the Sea Shepherd Conservation Society and there has been a collision between it an a whaler...If you've seen Whale wars, this might not come as a great surprise

    http://www.seashepherd.org/news-and-...-100105-4.html
    http://www.icrwhale.org/pdf/100106Release2.pdf
    http://www.icrwhale.org/gpandsea.htm
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8520QvZzwfw
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    Certainly looks like hostile action by the Japs. As far as I can tell from the vid, the Japs were turning to starboard with the deliberate intention of ramming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twister_Ken View Post
    Certainly looks like hostile action by the Japs. As far as I can tell from the vid, the Japs were turning to starboard with the deliberate intention of ramming.
    or to avoid hitting the it with the stern of their boat and chewing it in the prop....

    The protesters have a history of playing "chicken" with the whaling boats, the whalers have managed to avoid them up until this incident.

    Would have been very easy for the fast little boat to get out of the way of the big slow boat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twister_Ken View Post
    Certainly looks like hostile action by the Japs. As far as I can tell from the vid, the Japs were turning to starboard with the deliberate intention of ramming.
    Here's what I see...the whaler turning and will miss the sea shepherd's boat, until the sea shepherd's accelerates into the path of the whalers

    OK spraying the boat you've just hit with water canons isn't tennis.

    But I don't recall seeing you can't do it in col regs!!
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    Looks as though the water canon could have affected the ability of the earthrace crew to manouever. Smacks (pardon the pun) of an illegal act to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snooks View Post
    Here's what I see...the whaler turning and will miss the sea shepherd's boat, until the sea shepherd's accelerates into the path of the whalers
    Pretty much what I see as well, except I can't determine whether the big boat was turning. There are just no external references to determine whether it was.

    I see little boat tootling along at a couple of knots - towards the path of the big boat, then accelerating in the last couple of seconds. Without that acceleration it is unclear whether the little boat would have been hit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bbg View Post
    I see little boat tootling along at a couple of knots - towards the path of the big boat, then accelerating in the last couple of seconds. Without that acceleration it is unclear whether the little boat would have been hit.
    True, but if the SS peeps in the little black boat had gone astern, or taken off power they wouldn't be quite a few feet shorter now.

    Do we know that the Shonan Maru II wasn't restricted in her ability to manoeuvre? (towing a whale for example)
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    The little boat had engines idling until the last few seconds. I'd suggest the acceleration wasn't to ram the big boat (why?) but to try to get manoeuvrability to turn away. Yes, the biggy is turning to starboard. In the initial shot she'll go clear ahead if she maintains her course, but the angle quickly changes to that for the resulting collision. And the littlely is almost dead in the water until the last few seconds, so it's not her movement which has closed the angle.
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    Have a look at the large ships wake at the end of the Youtube clip, they dont seem to have steered to starboard.....?

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    Quote Originally Posted by snooks View Post

    Do we know that the Shonan Maru II wasn't restricted in her ability to manoeuvre? (towing a whale for example)
    Shonan Maru II is elsewhere said to be a 'guard ship' and not designated a harpoon vessel.

    The harpoon vessels are called Yushin Maru I, II and III.

    Still, it appears from the video the Adi Gil's helm confused his backwards lever with his forward lever.

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