I've got a 25lb genuine CQR and a 15kg Rocna, on a 9m yacht.
Going to be spending a couple of weeks later in the season anchoring in various locations probably not too far west or north (but a bit) of the exit from the Caledonian, and then slowly south towards N. Ireland.
The CCC guides do say I ought to consider a fishermans anchor.
What do you think? A fishermans, something else, or am I OK with what I have?
And if I need one, what size?
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25-02-11, 18:56 #1
West Coast of Scotland Anchorages. Do I need a fishermans?My Live @ Anchor w/Kid Blog -> http://www.yacht-forum.co.uk/viewforum.php?f=54
25-02-11, 19:08 #2
Provided that you follow the CCC guide's anchorage recommendations I'd say you'll be fine. There are plenty to choose from so if the closest one's poor you should be able to move on to one that's more suitable for your ground tackle. I only have CQR's (I know, I know), and once I'm in, I'm in. We're heading up in that general direction this summer. I'll add another type to the CQRs, but it won't be a fisherman's. And no, I don't want to start a fight by declaring what I'm going to choose.Consitency is a sign of a lack of imagination.
25-02-11, 19:23 #3
I've got one if you want one, but TBH, I don't see the need either. I actually cruised that area with a Danforth & a Fishermans (the one available now) but never deployed the Fishermans.
The anchorages are sheltered, the tides small - and so are the risks. Try to avoid the kelp, you can go shallow enough to see the bottom as the tides are only about 10'.
25-02-11, 19:30 #4
Replace The CQR with a Danforth (or Fortress) Rather Than Buy A Fisherman's
I sailed all over the West Coast more or less full time for 5 years. We had a CQR, Danforth and Fisherman's anchors on board.
The Fisherman was used once. The CQR was the bower and we used that a lot with great success, so your Rocna will be great as a primary anchor. If you have the cash i would change the CQR for a Danforth (or Fortress).
I used the Danforth in a number of kedging operations and it worked well. Typically it was used to restrict swinging room either fore and aft or as a running mooring. You could do this with the CQR but the Danforth was pretty reliable and set first time. I used the Danforth on a few occasions as a second bower and once in tandem in front the CQR; strong winds. The latter was a pain in the butt.
So keep the Rocna, don't buy a fisherman's and if you have the cash get a Danforth or Fortress. My current yacht has two CQRs, as a kedge they are a pain to launch from the dinghy, being too awkward.Having time is unavoidable.
25-02-11, 19:36 #5Registered User
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Spent many many nights at anchor all over the W coast and all done on a (genuine - not a copy) Bruce. Never had any holding problems even in severe weather.
25-02-11, 19:45 #6
Great stuff, thank you.
What's the reasoning behind the Danforth/Fortress suggestion rather than something like a small(ish) delta?
The delta's look good in test results and are available very cheaply.My Live @ Anchor w/Kid Blog -> http://www.yacht-forum.co.uk/viewforum.php?f=54
25-02-11, 20:06 #7
Over the last 35 years I have used CQR, Bruce, Oceane, and Rokna anchors on the West Coast. All manufactured by the patent holders and all at least one size larger than the manufacturer's recommendation for the boat being used. I generally avoid rocky bottoms (avoid black sea bed when anchoring) so have never needed a fisherman (though the 30 and 50 kg Bruce was quite good at hooking rock).
Some anchorages do have patches of watery thin mud providing poor holding and you may also find nice looking sandy bottom that is a thin layer over smooth rock which can be disconcerting when the wind picks up and the anchor pulls through it.
25-02-11, 20:17 #8
Danforth / Fortress Advantages
In addition they offer an alternative style which may anchor better in some seabeds compared to other styles.Having time is unavoidable.
25-02-11, 20:40 #9
25lb CQR should be fine. I've been here over 25 years and that's seen me in good stead (27' Vega, 2 x 25lb CQR).
Eileach an Naoimh (Garvellachs) is the only place I've been where I've felt that a fisherman might be the better option due to the rocky bottom.
25-02-11, 20:50 #10
The CCC have been advising a Fisherman anchor to deal with weed for decades - I'm pretty sure the advice is in my 1926 copy of the sailing directions. I haven't yet met anyone who actually has one.
Last edited by Ubergeekian; 25-02-11 at 22:30.