Bayliner 285 - questions
I am considering a Bayliner 285 and I have a few questions for anyone who either owns one or who can offer any advice. I have done a reasonable amount of research including the fact it is petrol and the fuel consumption!
These are probably stupid questions, however if I don't ask I won't know....
The fridge is a 12v/240v so I assume it will work on shorepower and then switch over to 12V does anyone know if this is automatic?
Does the hob and microwave work if the boat is off shore power? The hob is the really imprtant one.
I am being asked by SWMBO as the galley needs to work!
From my side can anyone offer any advice, recomendations or anything to really look out for on these boats.
This is my first boat after a couple of speedboats 18-20 years ago.
The fridge will automatically switch over from 240v to 12v when you are off shore power, yes.
The hob works using shore power or spirits so yes, you can use it when anchored somewhere etc.
The microwave needs shore power - unless you install an inverter or generator.
The warm water lasts a day or so. We tend to "check in" every 2nd/3rd day however if you want to stay out of marinas for longer, you can have the hot water linked up to your engine to heat up while you cruise.
We're on our second 285 and cannot find anything nearly so spacious for less than double the cost. 6 berths including one king size, door to aft cabin, all in a 29ft.
I was told that the 285 is Bayliner's best-selling cruiser - this seems to be confirmed by the fact that it survived two major cross-range updates with virtually no change i.e. since 2002-ish. The new model (2010+?) does not appear as practical, though.
If you have any questions, feel free to PM me.
Agree with all the above we had a 2855 for a couple of years (our first boat) the only disadvantage we found was the lack of side decks but that was a minor irritation when considered within the complete package. Get one with a bow thruster fitted.
Originally Posted by EugeneR
Many thanks for your replies.
I was already planning on a calorifier for the hot water as we are planning to use the boat to stay on for up to a week or so at a time.
I have just put an offer in on a 2005 which has a nice spec including bowthruster, electric windlass, spotlight, new canopy and has been regularly serviced, anti fouled and polished.
EugeneR I will take the opportunity to PM you to get a few more tips, especially as you are on your 2nd 285!
As other have said, if the hob is the std spirit/electric, you can use it w/out shorepower, but your other 240V electric needs will need an inverter, and therefore probably 3 domestic batteries. These will need a top up daily from the engine alternators, and this will top up the calorifier with hot water. You will probably only have sufficient water on board for an overnight (unless you never shower), so you might need to visit shore to at least top up the water.
I can confirm we are planning to shower, it will be a dirty smelly boat otherwise!
We are looking at keeping her on the Thames for this year so the plan is to top the water tanks up every day at marinas, locks etc as I know the water tank is not huge.
I'm not sure about going down the inverter route as the boat already has 3 batteries. I think the plan is either pub, restaurant or BBQ for dinners.
Thanks for the info as it confirmed what I thought. The only thing I am looking at is putting a 12V socket somewhere near the galley to run a 12v kettle and have the ability to charge a laptop etc. There is one already but it's up in the cockpit.
There should be a 12v socket inside the sliding cabinet next to the galley. You can leave your laptop inside there to charge as well.
For the kettle, I'd recommend using spirits instead. A 12v kettle takes ages to boil and uses a lot of battery capacity whereas spirits is quick and does not waste so much battery power.
Thanks for the tip about the 12v socket I will have a look around in the cupboards next time I see the boat.
I will rethink the 12v kettle then, are the spirits ok to use i.e not dangerous/smelly etc. I will be in BIG trouble with SWMBO if a cup of tea in the morning is troublesome.
What spirit is the best to use?
Apologies if these questions seem a bit stupid.
It might be worth checking how the boat has been set up for 230v as opposed to 110v for the USA market.
We had an older Bayliner 2750 and this was fitted with a huge transformer in the engine room. Although this converted 230v to 110v perfectly well, it still provided 50Hz and the fridge was designed for 60Hz so it never worked on the mains. The compresser ran but the fridge did not cool down although it was fine when on 12v.
Cooking with spirits is clean and, I feel, much safer than a normal gas cooker at home. This is because you deal with small quantities which is not stored under pressure and cannot explode as easily.
The drawback is that a 500ml bottle does not last very long - maybe a few days at max!