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  1. #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beadle View Post
    I trust you will not be transferring any of my personal data onto the new site.

    I would object most strongly to having any of my personal details appearing an a zoo like Facebook.
    +1

    How do we ensure that this does not happen?

  2. #42
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    Oh dear God. Are people really this thick?

    THE FORUM IS NOT MOVING TO FACEBOOK.

    The Classic boat forum is moving to the Chelsea Magazine Company's new Classic Boat website. As the forums have value to advertisers, they're an asset with value, and it looks like the forum was one of the assets sold with the magazine. (If you're not paying for it, you're not the client, you're the product).

    As I said above, I would be amazed if the sale didn't include non-compete clauses, including non-compete in forums as well as magazines.

    Classis Boat now simply has a facebook page. It's entirely separeate to the forum.

    IN THE SAME WAY THAT THE YBW FACEBOOK PAGE IS SEPARATE FROM THIS FORUM. AND THE YW FACEBOOK PAGE IS A _DIFFERENT_ THING THAN THE YW WEBSITE ON YBW. AND THE SAME FOR THE YM FORUM & SITE ON YBW AND FACEBOOK PAGE.

    http://www.facebook.com/YachtingBoatingWorld
    http://www.facebook.com/pages/Yachti...11913865558561
    http://www.facebook.com/pages/Yachti...hly/8790910699

    And guess what. They're all on Twitter as well.

    http://twitter.com/#!/yachtingworld
    http://twitter.com/#!/ybw
    http://twitter.com/#!/yachtingmonthly
    Last edited by Keen_Ed; 08-04-11 at 18:31.

  3. #43
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    Thanks for the explainations. The idea of being on Facebook makes me reach for the chunder bag..
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    And when one reads about the DVLA selling drivers deitails to clampers...well, I might be cynical.

  4. #44
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keen_Ed View Post
    Oh dear God. Are people really this thick?
    Far be it for me to criticize your keen modus operandi, but I would quietly suggest that you may wish to review your current marketing strategy particularly in the manner of which you describe individuals, whom are some of the contributors to the success (as it may be) of the Classic Boat/Classics forum, and who are the very reasons that the advertisers will hand over funds to the company, and whom they also wish to encourage (they say they want them to 'befriend' you on FaceBook) to provide support for them.

    Are you part of the Classics team?


    It does seem that to a significant number of individuals the idea of contributing/discussing/etc on Facebook is abhorrent.
    Last edited by Rum_Pirate; 08-04-11 at 18:47.
    RELAX, Rum may not be the answer, but nor is water or juice. Now what is your Question?

  5. #45
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    And where _on_earth_ do you get the idea that I have any connection to ybw/yw/ym/cmc/classic boat?

    I am completely unconnected in any way (apart from being a reader) to all of them.

  6. #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keen_Ed View Post
    Oh dear God. Are people really this thick?

    THE FORUM IS NOT MOVING TO FACEBOOK.

    The Classic boat forum is moving to the Chelsea Magazine Company's new Classic Boat website. As the forums have value to advertisers, they're an asset with value, and it looks like the forum was one of the assets sold with the magazine. (If you're not paying for it, you're not the client, you're the product).

    As I said above, I would be amazed if the sale didn't include non-compete clauses, including non-compete in forums as well as magazines.

    Classis Boat now simply has a facebook page. It's entirely separeate to the forum.

    IN THE SAME WAY THAT THE YBW FACEBOOK PAGE IS SEPARATE FROM THIS FORUM. AND THE YW FACEBOOK PAGE IS A _DIFFERENT_ THING THAN THE YW WEBSITE ON YBW. AND THE SAME FOR THE YM FORUM & SITE ON YBW AND FACEBOOK PAGE.

    http://www.facebook.com/YachtingBoatingWorld
    http://www.facebook.com/pages/Yachti...11913865558561
    http://www.facebook.com/pages/Yachti...hly/8790910699

    And guess what. They're all on Twitter as well.

    http://twitter.com/#!/yachtingworldLifGDetkCbE
    http://twitter.com/#!/ybw
    http://twitter.com/#!/yachtingmonthly
    It's like.......

    Another person's thoughts about you are outside of your jurisdiction.

  7. #47
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    The name of the forum on this site is Classics not even Classic Boat. It would be a great shame if it had to move. I like many others won't bother to re-register, I don't have a classic boat. We do however subcribe to Classic Boat (and PBO) I like looking at the pictures and the projects.

    Possibly time to stop my subscription.

  8. #48
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    It seems we can take it or leave it in regards to facebook BUT I resent very strongly to my posts on these forums being sold like some sort of commodity especially with out any form of consultation.
    I have posted HERE not on another site, I have an interest in classic boats but my overall interest is boating in general.
    I do wonder if copyright comes into play on this occasion as my post have been sent from one place to another !!!???


  9. #49
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    This forum isn't provided out of the kindness of the YBW accounting department. It exists to make money for ipc, by bringing people to the website using those visits to sell advertising.

    If you're using a service for which you're not paying, then you're not the customer - you're the product. And as such, you get treated as any other product - sold to the highest bidder.

    Don't like it? Fair enough. Don't post.

  10. #50
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keen_Ed View Post
    This forum isn't provided out of the kindness of the YBW accounting department. It exists to make money for ipc, by bringing people to the website using those visits to sell advertising.

    If you're using a service for which you're not paying, then you're not the customer - you're the product. And as such, you get treated as any other product - sold to the highest bidder.
    By being attracted to the forum (hosted by party A at a charge to Party B ) to post AND hopefully (by party B) we read the advertisements of Parties B to possibly buy what they are touting, are we not the customers?
    RELAX, Rum may not be the answer, but nor is water or juice. Now what is your Question?

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