Blue Card

[truscott]

Hi Capt Jacko,

That bit has been on the net for about 2 years without being enforced. This is why I am a little confused. By the sounds of it, you have been told at Yat Marine that you have to have this, and obviously couldn't get a new Transit Log without it, but this doesn't fit with my experience last month at Netsel, nor does it match the experience that my brother in law had with his boat just a couple of weeks back at Yat Marine (although his boat is now on the hard there, so it may not have been an issue).

It seems VERY confusing to me, as the only implementation I had seen of this was down in Gocek and only for Black Water tanks!

As I say, the regulations you quoted off the web, have been around for ages. Just not enforced.

I'm curious as to what the other folk on here are experiencing, as this will have a major impact on whether I choose to stay in the area next year, or move (I'm not in Turkey anymore, so rely on secondhand info such as this).

PT.

[MontyMariner]

I have been trying to get a new Transit Log here in Marmaris this week and its proven not to be possible to get one with out a Blue Card,so looks like its now law.

As I understand it you don't need a Transit Log if under 10 Mtrs.
What happens re Blue Card in that case?

[syfuga]

There are postings on this going back to the original publication in autumn 2009.

There is a lot of historical background material still on our web site www.syfuga.co.uk but you'll have to root through places, turkey and go to link at bottom of page.

It seems that they are slowly trying to implement the practice, without the element of compulsion originally envisaged. Blue cards are being issued free.

The main issue is and always was gulets, tourist day boats, and larger vessels who discharged sewage etc.

Two separate issues exist:

The Blue Card is introduced by regulations on a pilot basis throughout Mugla Province, ie north of Bodrum to east of Olu Deniz.

Separate regulations exist regarding Skopea Limani or Gocek bays. This may be found
http://www.marinturk.com.tr/Mevzuatlar.aspx?q=2

[Petronella]

We renewed our Transit Log yesterday in Kas. No Blue Card even mentioned.

[xtiffer]

Yat Marin get the Sahil Guvenlik helicopter above them frequently.
Guess they are getting twitchy.
Does not seem to be an isuue ( or even mentioned) in Netsel
Cheers,
Chris

[Capt-jacko]

Well it dose seem one hell of a mess thats for sure, so the good news is we managed to get our new transit log with out the Blue Card but they say the Blue Card may come as standard with the transit log at some point .

The agent who sorted our transit log out told me i must be careful if i go out of the marina with out a Blue Card ,because if the coast guard boards you he will ask for the Blue Card to show how and where you are pumping out your waist ,also he thought the fine could be heavy if you are one of the unlucky ones.

This all makes it a bit of a dilemma i guess, you are damed if you don't and damed if you do, on the one hand if you get registered on the Blue Card system, first you will need to have all the correct piping and tanks plus a deck fitting and most likely will have to pay each time you have the tanks pumped out,we have seen on the net all sorts of prices for this from free to 30 euros a time,

but on the other hand you just risk it and hope for the best.
For me and my wife we both just think its time to move on, the last 2 years have been ok but the constant worry and stress now is taking the enjoyment out of it.

We would like to thank you all for your input much appreciated.
Cheers.

[Capt-jacko]

At 9 am this morning was a broadcast on VHF ch 69 saying there will be a meeting at Yacht Marina Marmaris in the bar at 12 noon tomorrow Friday the 7th/10/2011 about the Blue Card. to try and find more info about what is involved.

[Capt-jacko]

There was a meeting at Yat Marina on Friday,the main points that were mentioned are,

1/ All boats must have on board the Blue Card at all times.

2/ You can get them at Yat Marina office for 20 euros, also other placers too

3/ You will need to show this Blue Card at all pump out sites,

4/ You will need to show the Blue Card to Coast Gard with your transit log so he can check you have been disposing of all your waist at the pump out sites

5/ One last point was if you are cruising the Turkish waters and have your transit log ,You can not dump out at sea,you must use the Blue Card at all times if you don't you will be fine.

6/ It was also mentioned a boat has been fine already and it cost 2600 euros

7/ I think the Blue Card is a bit like a Sim card and records all the data

[satsuma]

There was a meeting at Yat Marina on Friday,the main points that were mentioned are,

1/ All boats must have on board the Blue Card at all times.

2/ You can get them at Yat Marina office for 20 euros, also other placers too

3/ You will need to show this Blue Card at all pump out sites,

4/ You will need to show the Blue Card to Coast Gard with your transit log so he can check you have been disposing of all your waist at the pump out sites

5/ One last point was if you are cruising the Turkish waters and have your transit log ,You can not dump out at sea,you must use the Blue Card at all times if you don't you will be fine.

6/ It was also mentioned a boat has been fine already and it cost 2600 euros

7/ I think the Blue Card is a bit like a Sim card and records all the data

Says who? Who are the sources of reference?
And on the basis of this being a Mugla thing only how do they police boats in transit through Mugla!
Is this a yat marine thing?
Or are foreigners demanding rules should be followed!

[Capt-jacko]

Yes good point.we were told that Yat Marina had been fine for not making boat owners register there boats on the Blue card.

Netsel Marina are making it part of all new contracts, so you will get one at the point of taking one out.

So it is starting to look like the Marinas are under some sort of control and pressure to force them on to people.