You can have a deck saloon yacht that sails as well or better than similar-sized cruising yachts, and you can sail from inside, motors well, no "cave" etc etc, and even have a shallow draft for the East Coast and fishing expeditions. Paul, if you'd like a look round ours (which is a lot smaller than you have said), then PM me. [Downside is cost and availability]
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14-02-12, 08:07 #31Registered User
Location : UK, Herts/Essex
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- Jun 2004
14-02-12, 08:51 #32
Paul - your post confirms what you said at the beginning about your knowledge of sailboats. Fine, we all start from zero but your problem is that you dont know what you are looking at and listening to others is likely either to give you bad advice or confuse you. Ideally you need to pick up some knowledge - do some sailing courses and maybe join a yacht club before putting your hand in your pocket. Why sailing courses? Because you need to have a good sailing boat that you enjoy sailing - using a sailing boat as a mobo will only frustrate you because it will be a far worse mobo than the one you sold.
Fishing is also an issue if you do it seriously. Sailing boats have rigging all over the place which makes casting difficult / impractical. Some are better than others but again a sailboat is not as good as a mobo.
I get the feeling that you are going away from a mobo because of diesel costs rather than because you want to sail. Understandable but likely to lead to real frustration. And I say this as a confirmed sailor who welcomes everyone coming over from the dark side.
14-02-12, 10:06 #33Registered User
Location : Falmouth Cornwall
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- May 2001
14-02-12, 11:11 #34
Thanks for all the feedback and suggestions so far, was up until silly-o-clock looking at them all. Will reply in more detail later, work sadly beckons.
Oh, the Jeanneau Espace 1000/110, what's the difference between the two models and do they all have drop keels ?
14-02-12, 12:27 #35
It has a tiller and hydraulic wheel inside. The auto pilot works when the hydraulics are engaged. The autopilot is inside with a repeater in the cockpit. A wheel outside was an option.
The 1100 has the same layout from the companionway forwards as far as I know. It also has a sugar scoop transom and the hanging locker to the stbd of hatch the goes to form the access to the aft cabin. The one on Apollo Duck has a higher cill from the cockpit to the saloon too, Mum's 1000 only has 2 steps where that 1100 looks to have 4.Bob.
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14-02-12, 14:28 #36Registered User
Location : Pin Mill
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- Dec 2005
As an aside, I used to own a Westerly Konsort Duo.
At one stage I sent my mate to take the inside helm as I pretended to be doing something in the cockpit; I then switched the control lever to tiller steering.
Could hardly contain myself as my mate was steering hard to port as I asked him to do; I nudged the tiller hard to starboard and then hard to port as he desperately tried spinning the lifeless and redundant wheel anyway he could - desperately trying to regain some sort of control.
14-02-12, 20:48 #37
If you can stretch to a newer (but therefore probably more expensive hence smaller) machine you will get better all round performance. The older generation motor-sailors were rarely a true 50:50 blend, they were more one than the other (usually more motor and poor sailors due to their design) but the newer generation designs have achieved a much better blend and can both sail well and motor home at a good clip if required. But more cash obviously.
14-02-12, 21:10 #38
Paul, you already have the boat I most regret selling, have one again in a heartbeat...You only lose when you stop.
15-02-12, 03:36 #39
15-02-12, 08:30 #40
I chartered an Espace 1000 and really did not like it. It needed a gale of wind to get it going and to helm outside and see where you are going you have to stand. The inside steering position didn't provide any feel.
Other than that it was a comfortable boat.