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14-02-12, 09:38 #21Dum spiro spero. Cras ingens iterabimus aequor.
14-02-12, 09:38 #22Registered User
Location : Mid Devon
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I used two very good brokers and would recommend them wholeheartedly. The first is Adrian Nicolle on the South Coast who eventually sold the boat for me. As the boat is at Watchet on the Bristol Channel we agreed from the outset that I would handle all viewings which is the best way anyway as I could answer all the question.
The second was Jeroen Korthuis from Astra Mare in the Nertherlands. He provided several viewings from his European clients who I met and showed round the boat. Both these brokers were excellent and I would suggest anyone selling a boat in the UK to also list it with Astra Mare to get the full European coverage. Astra Mare also work on a set fee not a percentage.
14-02-12, 10:26 #23
The Nauticat on your site looks very nice, i doubt the owner would take an offer of £50 too kindly lol.
I'm in the early stages of the process, not expecting to actually make a purchase for some time yet. Will keep an eye on your listing though and once i've decided exactly what i want, i'll let you know.
Nice site by the way, good to see some decent pictures. The video tours are also a useful tool, not only to show people the layout etc, but gives a better idea of condition.
14-02-12, 11:07 #24
I think a lot of brokers are being left behind with the advent of the Internet. Gone are the days when they field a few phone calls from buyers doing the rounds to see what's out there. These days people surf the net and do the finding for themselves so it's essential to provide near brochure quality images of your boat.
A good broker needs to educate the vendor and that includes the asking price. There lies the biggest problem because sellers will either have the figure they want to ask in mind or go with whoever "offers" them the biggest number. The boat doesn't stand a cat in hell's chance of making it but let's worry about that 6 months or a year down the line when the owner is a bit more motivated to get the boat sold.
There are buyers out there. Once we've dotted the Is and crossed the Ts I'll be spending a few quid on a replacement. As I start to look there are boats which are simply on a different planet price-wise and will never find a home. We're not talking £10-20k out either, more like £200k!
If I'm not going to bother to make a phone call to them as a genuine cash in pocket buyer then who is?
Brokerage of anything is a very odd business and the broker needs to decide exactly what they bring to the mix. They also need to be choosy about what they put on their books otherwise there is a danger buyers ignore them because they don't take them seriously or immediately assume a boat will be over priced / under condition just like everything else they have listed.
14-02-12, 11:25 #25
Does anyone know just how many brokers actually do own their own (used) stock? None that I know of do, I would entertain a trade-in if the deal was acceptable.'I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered! My life is my own!'
14-02-12, 11:36 #26
14-02-12, 11:41 #27
Thanks Jimmy!'I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered! My life is my own!'
14-02-12, 12:46 #28
Ultimately it will be price, condition and popularity that will see a boat. I'm not familiar with your boat. Would there be competition from new or newer boats, not necessarily identical but from a similar manufacturer which are being sold aggressively?
Post up the ad so we can have a look over it.
In terms of brokers owning their own stock, I'm not suggesting they own all the boats but they have their own boats within there. As has been said people like Essex definitely have stock boats, Princess will also sell and handle boats they own as well. Some get traded out. In either case the dealers will have a very good grasp of current values because they either have a figure they would write a cheque out for or they know what one sold for recently.
I've had so many conversations with brokers selling vastly over priced boats who won't acknowledge that fact. You just have to walk away, there's nothing you can do if person thinks they are correct. Sure enough 6 months later the price comes down but it's too late. There was a deal to be done and they missed it. Buying a boat,, even an expensive one is a moment of madness thing. When you're there with money in your pocket you want to get it sorted there and then, you don't want to mess about and drag it out for months on end.
14-02-12, 13:02 #29Adrian
14-02-12, 13:04 #30Registered User
Location : scotland
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