Speaking as someone who has just made the change to sail, mainly due to the cost of fuel, both for the boat and the Travel to the boat, I have a great deal of sympathy for the mobo users, I am dismayed that so mainy people on this forum are willing to roll over and accept our treatment by the Belgians, and accept extra costs, Our government is going to do nothing for us, and the RYA just don't understand, so just boycott Belgium, and make sure they know why, you never know they might try and attract us with lower fuel cost. However if we carry on the way we are going (all the infighting) we will never achieve anything.......Solidarity boaters!! its the only way.
If we had the French mentality would we all go to Weymouth in August to make our point.
just one point my marina fees went UP when I changed, marina's charge per foot regardless of propulsion method.
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25-02-12, 12:51 #121
25-02-12, 12:58 #122Chrusty 1 Guest
25-02-12, 13:39 #123Registered User
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Vegetable oil does not attract Road Vehicle Tax but start running your car with it and you then become liable for it (or it did the last time I looked, ages ago).
People are forgetting that the tax in question was originally implemented to tax road users.
25-02-12, 13:56 #124
The UK government has already recognised that there is no gain to be had by charging road tax on fuel for leisure boaters or red would be gone.
As such all they need is to be given a way of achieving this without upsetting our EU neighbours and without risking the fuel getting into the road.fuel supply line.
Starting to sound like a broken record but if it is not against EU regulations to use a marked duty paid fuel then all we need to do is introduce a marking not currently used in Europe for our marine fuel, which is already a dedicated fuel made specifically for marine use and is different to both traditional red, which has a high sulphur content and different to road fuel as it has no bio content.
I can't see how there is a law against duty paid marked fuel as as far as i am aware non of the red is duty free, it just has a lower rate attached.
There would be nothing stopping the UK setting the minimum EU duty rate for propulsion fuel, which if it was then charged at 100% would still be less than we currently pay for red at 60/40.
25-02-12, 14:15 #125
25-02-12, 15:05 #126
It is because he fuel carries a dye marker (red in UK, green in Eire) that BELGIAN LAW prohibits. Now that Belgian law may be designed to prevent tax reduced BELGIAN marked fuel from being used by leisure boaters, but is being applied to any boats in Belgian waters, regardless of where they bought that fuel & what tax was paid on it.
So, unless you have the major bulk of your fuel undyed, stay out od Belgian waters (ie up to 12 miles offshore, I presume?)
25-02-12, 15:10 #127Chrusty 1 Guest
25-02-12, 17:45 #128
After all the UK is extremely concerned that despite excepting the reasoning for the need for bio free fuel in leisure boats, due to our high level of environmental concerns it is essential that this fuel can not be used in normal road vehicles.
25-02-12, 21:48 #129
Cruise the south coast of Ireland. No probs with the colour of fuel in your tanks. You can choose to buy white diesel or green and pay the duty difference later. Awesome scenery too on the SW coast: Skelligs, Blaskets, Fastnet, West Cork, Baltimore, Kinsale, Glandore, etc. You'll find only a warm welcome rather than officials chasing tourists.
Wow I can't believe the legs this thread got. One troll's post has generated endless pages.Ocean Froggie
25-02-12, 22:06 #130Registered User
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Would love to cruise Ireland, but it's a bit far from Kent for a long weekend (or even a long week)...
Got no particular wish to visit Belgium, but it does rather get in the way of a leisurely trip to Holland - quite a hike to get there in a straight line. The most worrying thing is the possibility that other countries will take this as a sign that we have given in and start doing the same as the Belgians. The Dutch did start to impose fines, then agreed to hold off till the commission ruled on the subject.