What to buy?

[Noema]

Further to my original post and after a lot of thought I have revised (other half’s input, much more practical!) some of my/our thinking.

It runs something like this perhaps a smaller and cheaper boat to start with may be better as we think our usage we be low due to work commitments, the ever unpredictable weather and escalating marina fees per meter!

In that context the Eygthene 24, Verl 27 and Sadler 25 seam like reasonable choices.

Discuss?

[mrtreeboy222]

Get an old moody or westerly, they were built extremely strong and they 'll go on for another million years. The french built boats may look nice but there is a reason they are so cheap... Usually they are okay but the hull's are usually very thin and weak...




http://www.clarkeandcarter.co.uk/bro...mentID=3870307
http://www.clarkeandcarter.co.uk/bro...mentID=3259948

[Tranona]

Try to avoid the french built boats, they look nice but there is a reason they are so cheap.




http://www.clarkeandcarter.co.uk/bro...mentID=3870307
http://www.clarkeandcarter.co.uk/bro...mentID=3259948

Can you explain which French built boats you are referring to and why they are so "cheap"?

And BTW interesting choice of examples - nothing like what you recommended nor anywhere near what the OP is looking for.

[Tranona]

In that context the Eygthene 24, Verl 27 and Sadler 25 seam like reasonable choices.

Discuss?

The Eyghthene is a very lively and sporty boat. The Verl gets good reports, but not many about. Sadler very popular, but short on space for a family and getting very old now. However, would be a good start, particularly if you can find one that has been updated as it meets that criterion of being easy to sell on when you want to change. Also means that good ones sell very quickly which can be frustrating for a buyer.

[Shuggy]

Have you thought about a Van de Stadt Pioneer 10? They're very quick boats and great fun. There's one for sale here, but I suspect it's a tad overpriced...

http://www.apolloduck.com/feature.phtml?id=152631

More details on a well-known sold one here:

http://www.piota.co.uk/

[Scotty_Tradewind]

Twister 28.
If you are sailing in the waters stated with family I would recommend a stable safe yacht with a very proven safety record. A boat that will look after you even when you get things wrong.
A boat that you rarely have to reef with standard rig in anything up to a F6, fast around the cans with a good handicap, and just enough space with some having 5 berths.
I do know of a very late one that has just come on the market due to a sudden death of the owner and family seemingly looking for a quick sale at a very competitive price.
I knew the owner but otherwise I have no connection or interest other than the fact that I've owned a Twister and can think of no better boat for your needs.
Twisters are often pricey for their size, but ask anyowner or past owner about them, there is rarely serious criticism.
The new editor of YM has one and has cruised thousands of miles in her

PM me if interested

[Pete7]

It runs something like this perhaps a smaller and cheaper boat to start with may be better as we think our usage we be low due to work commitments, the ever unpredictable weather and escalating marina fees per meter!

In that context the Eygthene 24, Verl 27 and Sadler 25 seam like reasonable choices.

Discuss?

You have two growing kids so that is 4 adults in a couple of years. I think you should plan on something a little bigger and stick with the original plan. Its not only the length, but width and height as well that avoids the feeling of cabin fever when you're sat in harbour and its been raining all day.

There is a Cobra 850 in Strangford Lough for sale at £12500 or less with an offer. Seems to have had money spent on her over the years and is local to you.

http://www.apolloduck.com/feature.phtml?id=235270

http://www.cobra-seawolf.com/index.html

Or a hunter horizon 27 OOD at £13500 which could be interesting. Lots of posts on here about them.

http://www.apolloduck.com/feature.phtml?id=156806

The advantage of either is they are local to you so easy to view and take for a sail. Take some time to view a couple of yachts in different lengths to see the difference a couple of feet make.

Pete

[Scotty_Tradewind]

You have two growing kids so that is 4 adults in a couple of years. I think you should plan on something a little bigger and stick with the original plan. Its not only the length, but width and height as well that avoids the feeling of cabin fever when you're sat in harbour and its been raining all day.

There is a Cobra 850 in Strangford Lough for sale at £12500 or less with an offer. Seems to have had money spent on her over the years and is local to you.

http://www.apolloduck.com/feature.phtml?id=235270

http://www.cobra-seawolf.com/index.html

Or a hunter horizon 27 OOD at £13500 which could be interesting. Lots of posts on here about them.

http://www.apolloduck.com/feature.phtml?id=156806

Pete

Yes but O\P is going to have inexperienced family onboard and are they good sea boats for the W.Scottish waters if he intends to sail regularly.
Better to be a tad small and VERY safe imho

[Tranona]

Yes but O\P is going to have inexperienced family onboard and are they good sea boats for the W.Scottish waters if he intends to sail regularly.
Better to be a tad small and VERY safe imho

So, how do you think the two boats mentioned have survived all these years if they are so "unsafe"? There may well be reasons for choosing a Twister as quite a few people do, but thousands of people have chosen not to in W. Scottish waters and sailed regularly, and survived!

[Pete7]

Yes but O\P is going to have inexperienced family onboard and are they good sea boats for the W.Scottish waters if he intends to sail regularly. Better to be a tad small and VERY safe imho

I had assumed he was in Northern Ireland which by the nature of the L shaped coastline provides some excellent sheltered waters and hundreds of little harbours. In the 6 years I lived there I can't remember being caught out by the weather, because the forecasts were good. We went out when we shouldn't have, but that's different.

Yes there are a couple of Twisters within budget but the couldn't be further from him without being in a foreign country. Hence the suggestion of two yachts, within budget, locally, that might suite the requirement for 2 adults and two large teenagers rather than something small which will be a squash.

Pete