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10-04-12, 23:44 #41Registered User
- Join Date
- Nov 2004
11-04-12, 07:49 #42
I'm a bit biased (!) but a secondhand X-37 is available for new 37 ft AWB money.
If you decide it's not for you, maybe your main reason for buying - it's new - has gone.
Might be worth a couple of weekends looking at say a Maxi or X Yacht etc. Depending on who owned it before you, it might have only had a few weekends use.
11-04-12, 08:02 #431997 Bavaria 46 Exclusive; keel still attached
ROCNA anchor, shank not bent
11-04-12, 08:22 #44Registered User
Location : UK, Herts/Essex
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- Jun 2004
One more contribution to the self-tacking jib debate...
Where will you be sailing? If you have to get out of a river or narrow channel, then the wind is always against you (well, it seems that way) so you'll be doing a lot of short-tacking, when the self-tacker is brilliant. If you are straight out to the open sea, then you'll rarely need to tack much (i.e. select your direction so that you don't!) so it loses its advantage. However, the self-tacker will rarely need to be reefed, so its shape is much better when the wind pipes up than the rolled-up genoa.
With a self-tacker you'll be underpowered in <F5 at all other points of sail and running is a pain. So supplement it with a cruising shute/assymmetric/code zero cut so that you can use it for as wide a wind angle as possible. It needs to be controllable from the cockpit (furler/sock). You will only be using it in light winds anyway.
11-04-12, 09:03 #45
Similar thoughts as me, except I would go for the 2-3 year old Bavaia/Hanse (if you still like those choices) The first owner would have sorted out teething problems you get on most new boats. They almost certainly will have added extra equipment and you will save a few thousand on the cost of a new one for a virtually new boat.
11-04-12, 09:58 #46Think outside the box.
11-04-12, 22:47 #47New User
Location : Nr. Exeter
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- Apr 2012
Hi there :-)
Having done some powerboating and sailing, and working in brokerage previously, I would say perhaps consider a charter on the sort of boat you're looking at buying, and perhaps even consider joining a club and doing some boating on various sailing boats.
If it were me I would look at something like an xyacht or even ovni a year or two old - which means somebody else pays the VAT for you. It also means shoukd you not take to it as you hope you can change boat again with minimal cost.
With regards sails, I'd echo most other people. When I started I was scared of big sails and spinnakers, but after not very long I felt the need, and going bigger is not cheap and can be a bit of a faff if the boat is not setup for sails with big loads - winch size for example on a new boat with a little self-tacking foresail will be hard work on a big genoa.