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    Quote Originally Posted by AdeOlly View Post
    Quite so; like every other business they need to sharpen their cost management.

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    It is a business that requires economies of scale. The staffing requirements are relatively disconnected from the number of boats, but the income is directly proportional to the number of berth holders. The same is pretty much true for plant - one crane is enough to service the needs of a good couple of hundred berth holders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maby View Post
    I doubt that anyone is paying less than £2k per annum for their mooring and the average is probably around £3k - that's a million in mooring fees before you begin to factor in boatyard services and visitors fees - should not be too hard to turn a useful profit...
    I could imagine they get hit by some large bills too, though. Environment, 'elf and safety,slipway rebuild, new pontoons etc etc.
    Was it Bembridge that got sold recently-for not alot .. something doesnt suggest it is easy pickings.

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    For availability at Premier Marinas see the link below.
    http://www.premiermarinas.com/pages/berth_availability

    There certainly appears to be a lot of availability at Brighton.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Talulah View Post
    For availability at Premier Marinas see the link below.
    http://www.premiermarinas.com/pages/berth_availability

    There certainly appears to be a lot of availability at Brighton.
    very interesting, however just looking firstly at Brighton, if the website is correct and they do indeed have 1600 berths there, having just 49 available shows they are at 97% capacity... which I would say is remarkable.... almost unbelievable...?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gjgm View Post
    I could imagine they get hit by some large bills too, though. Environment, 'elf and safety,slipway rebuild, new pontoons etc etc.
    Was it Bembridge that got sold recently-for not alot .. something doesnt suggest it is easy pickings.
    I think quality counts for a lot - people that have spent a couple of hundred grand (or more) on a boat will want excellent facilities, not the run down mud berths and shabby toilet blocks that seem to be common in a lot of the small independent marinas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maby View Post
    I think quality counts for a lot - people that have spent a couple of hundred grand (or more) on a boat will want excellent facilities, not the run down mud berths and shabby toilet blocks that seem to be common in a lot of the small independent marinas.
    but not everyone.... I am constantly amazed at the number of very expensive boats on Hamble River moorings which offer zero facilities....

    ...(but certainly not for me! give me a nice marina anyday!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firefly625 View Post
    very interesting, however just looking firstly at Brighton, if the website is correct and they do indeed have 1600 berths there, having just 49 available shows they are at 97% capacity... which I would say is remarkable.... almost unbelievable...?
    Agreed. I wonder though how many of the 1600 berths are on annual contracts?
    I've no idea but obviously that makes a big differance to the percentile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firefly625 View Post
    very interesting, however just looking firstly at Brighton, if the website is correct and they do indeed have 1600 berths there, having just 49 available shows they are at 97% capacity... with I would say is remarkable.... almost unbelievable...?
    Yep, 1600 berhs at Brighton. I reckon the availability is probably not too far off the mark; it always looks all but full when I'm down there, esp mid-week there are not many gaps evident.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maby View Post
    I think quality counts for a lot - people that have spent a couple of hundred grand (or more) on a boat will want excellent facilities, not the run down mud berths and shabby toilet blocks that seem to be common in a lot of the small independent marinas.
    I think that you may be right, but not all the time.

    I am always surprised to see some very expensive yachts in the type of marina you describe above. Some large yacht owners like a low-priced mooring too!

    Also, owners with larger boats often use their own toilets and showers so oddly, the quality of the showers etc is more important to the smaller boat owners.

    Not sure about the mud berths though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdeOlly View Post
    Yep, 1600 berhs at Brighton. I reckon the availability is probably not too far off the mark; it always looks all but full when I'm down there, esp mid-week there are not many gaps evident.
    wow... doing rather better at filling spaces than MDL then...

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