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    Quote Originally Posted by Jcorstorphine View Post
    Mine had the original sails and it did not go well to windward but then "gentlemen never beat to windward" In my case it was Mizzen, Jib and Diesel (when it was working that was)
    The ketch version then!. Pentland was available with sloop or ketch rig

    Ive sailed a ketch version of the Berwick two or three times too but so long ago Ive forgotten how it handled.

    Jib and Mizzen and engine though I do remember were quite a useful combination.

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    There's also quite a lot of stuff on the Westerly Wiki:

    http://westerly-owners.co.uk/westerl...title=Pentland

    There is a tremendous pool of knowledge about Westerlies in general....

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    Quote Originally Posted by NigelBirch View Post
    There's also quite a lot of stuff on the Westerly Wiki:

    http://westerly-owners.co.uk/westerl...title=Pentland

    There is a tremendous pool of knowledge about Westerlies in general....
    Had a look at that ,thanks.
    Still haven't had the definitive answer to the suitability for the twin keels in mud.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clarky View Post
    Had a look at that ,thanks.
    Still haven't had the definitive answer to the suitability for the twin keels in mud.
    You could look at a Macwester White Ketch which (I think) had moulded keels but not 100% sure. Had a bigger aft cabin and BMC 1.5 (cheap as chips to repair)

    http://yachts.apolloduck.co.uk/image...186548&image=1

    or

    http://scotland.boatshed.com/macwest...at-137661.html

    See pic below of keels.
    Last edited by Jcorstorphine; 11-05-12 at 16:58.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jcorstorphine View Post
    You could look at a Macwester White Ketch which (I think) had moulded keels but not 100% sure. Had a bigger aft cabin and BMC 1.5 (cheap as chips to repair)

    http://yachts.apolloduck.co.uk/image...186548&image=1

    or

    http://scotland.boatshed.com/macwest...at-137661.html

    See pic below of keels.
    Thanks for that, the doghouse would be an advantage in the Irish Sea where I am, although I am not sure if the lack of sailing ability would frustrate me, probably not, everything is a compromise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clarky View Post
    Had a look at that ,thanks.
    Still haven't had the definitive answer to the suitability for the twin keels in mud.
    We have both a Berwick and a Pentland at the club here.
    Absolutly no problems with them sitting in mud.
    One of them has been here for 15 years and gets sailed regularly. Keels haven't fallen off yet.

    Trev

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    Cheers for that Trevorr, that's what I was after.
    Clarky

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    +1 for the Macwester ...but then I would say that.

    Good luck!
    My Macwester Malin website, blog & photobank http://macwester.wordpress.com

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    The Berwick ( sloop) makes remarkably little leeway. So little that we never really bothered to allow for it in preparing courses to steer.

    The sloop rigged Pentland will be the same no doubt. I'd guess the ketches may not be so good

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    Even with unmodified keels it's not going to blow up on contact with mud !

    My father had a late Centaur with modified keel stubs - by him on top of previous owners' efforts - and the only annoyance was a tiny weep from the odd keel bolt.

    That was in the softest mud one can get, 24 /7 half tide swinging mooring 7-8 months a year.

    I would say most Westerlies of this type actually sail pretty well if one knows what they're doing, the downside is the lack of feel on the helm; performance for passage making is fine, it's just unrewarding to a helmsman used to boats which talk to them.

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