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    Quote Originally Posted by Seajet View Post
    How's that then, leave it safely nailed down ashore as a caravan then get a sailing boat actually designed as such by someone like Oliver Lee, Laurent Giles, Rob Humphries...
    +1

    or even German Frers, Tony Castro, Angus Primrose, S&S....

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    Oh come on guys, it's an old fashioned motorsailer, not a vendee globe contender. If that's what the guy wants, why shouldn't he have it?
    Grow old disgracefully, it's more fun

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    Quote Originally Posted by Topcat47 View Post
    Oh come on guys, it's an old fashioned motorsailer, not a vendee globe contender. If that's what the guy wants, why shouldn't he have it?
    No. It was a low rated boat even in its heyday and considering what it was designed to be...or not to be!

    Sorry.

    PS I think the Wight was possibly worse.
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    Ok I give in, it's a Brick ****house. I've seen them around but never actually sailed one. I've "sailed" a couple of old motorsailers and they weren't noted for being Sparkling. I suppose there had to be one that was noticeably worse than the rest.
    Grow old disgracefully, it's more fun

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    Quote Originally Posted by Topcat47 View Post
    Ok I give in, it's a Brick ****house. I've seen them around but never actually sailed one. I've "sailed" a couple of old motorsailers and they weren't noted for being Sparkling. I suppose there had to be one that was noticeably worse than the rest.
    Topcat47,

    have a look at a Macwester out of the water - a quick look mind, as it'll make a sailor go blind - an exercise in wetted area and frontal resistance drag.

    A chap I know has a Wight ketch, he was astounded by our rudder authority when we ghosted alongside at less than 1 knot; I formed the strong impression his large diesel did most of the work and fine control berthing was the department the fenders were in charge of !
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    Quote Originally Posted by chinita View Post
    Got a mate coming over from Ireland to view a Macwester Seaforth.

    I know nothing about these boats.

    Anything he should be looking out for or general comments - good and bad much appreciated.

    TIA
    It's a motor sailer & they look like a good seaboat......ignore seajets derision his is a toy by comparison

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicholas123 View Post
    It's a motor sailer & they look like a good seaboat......ignore seajets derision his is a toy by comparison
    Oh really ?!

    Care to come for a spin on either boat in a stiff breeze ?

    Here's one who won't be employing Nicholas123 as a Naval Architect just yet, though speaking of architects the Macwesters would have been very useful in the Mulberry Harbour project of WWII.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seajet View Post
    Oh really ?!

    Care to come for a spin on either boat in a stiff breeze ?

    Here's one who won't be employing Nicholas123 as a Naval Architect just yet, though speaking of architects the Macwesters would have been very useful in the Mulberry Harbour project of WWII.
    I would'nt have one because I love sailing first & foremost,still the original poster did'nt say his friend did'nt want one & know what he is doing......it looks like a stunning boat as motor sailers go.Check out this link http://essex.boatshed.com/macwester_...at-146715.html
    Your boat is not the ultimate boat seajet no matter how much you wax lyrical about it.It is all a matter of personal preference & we all have different priorities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicholas123 View Post
    I would'nt have one because I love sailing first & foremost,still the original poster did'nt say his friend did'nt want one & know what he is doing......it looks like a stunning boat as motor sailers go.Check out this link http://essex.boatshed.com/macwester_...at-146715.html
    Your boat is not the ultimate boat seajet no matter how much you wax lyrical about it.It is all a matter of personal preference & we all have different priorities.
    I have never said the Anderson is the ultimate or perfect boat, I posted just today that such a thing can't be had for a billion pounds !

    However there are good and bad examples of design and there are much better boats - even when being honest enough to call themselves motorsailers - than the Macwesters which weren't so much built as congealed.

    As for heavy weather or indeed any other type of sailing, you are sincerely welcome for a spin next season, with a bit of luck my chum in his Macwester Wight may be out at the same time, how many circles around it would you like, while we're making a cup of tea in a comfy interior ?!
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    Like an earlier poster, a friend has a Macwester Wight. (I am not clear how different that is to a Seaforth.) He is VERY happy with it.

    It is certainly very comfy and spacious inside compared to some of its competitors. Performance isn't this friend's thing, but he does do a lot of sailing in it.

    I believe that with the previous owners it cruised the Med for some years, before being sailed back. So clearly it's a very practical boat, that gets a lot more use than many, how shall I say, esteemed craft of a more performance oriented bent.

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