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  1. #11
    JPGruntfuttock is offline
    Location : West Med/ Inverclyde, yUK/Alameda Island, CA. USA
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    Default Re: Don\'t

    But, if your sister lives alone, then her single occupier rebate on the council tax
    might be at risk?

    Generally speaking, I am now having a problem with an Estate Agent who acts as the letting agent for my UK house during my prolonged absences. They have withheld the rent on the grounds that I do not have the documents they want to confirm my identity under the latest Money Laundering regulations.
    They have correspondence with my building society, bank account details and authorisation from the IR concerning tax and this arrangement has been in place for 6 years. But they are asking for a utility bill in my name from my current address!! A little difficult as I get water wherever available,
    generate my own electricity and have err, convenient arrangements for sewage disposal etc.

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    Default Re: Don\'t

    Your solution is admirable and is, I would venture to suggest, commonly used by a large number of cruising folk. As others have said, having no UK address would put you into the same legal black hole as the wino on the park bench. You would not be able to open a new bank account or credit card account; you would lose your right to NHS care; you would not be able to register your boat on the SSR etc etc. If you have a chest of drawers in your sister's spare bedroon full of your clothes, all your mail goes there and you always stay there for at least part of the time when you visit the UK, then it sounds to me as if it is indeed your "real" address.

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    Default Possibly

    But I wouldn't like to risk much on it - there is a small matter, according to la Rochelle douaniers, of being challenged to prove your residence (as with opening bank accounts) to produce utility bills made out to you at that address.
    When in hunt for income you can bet the State will play dirty.

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    Default Re: Possibly

    There is a small matter, according to la Rochelle douaniers, of being challenged to prove your residence.

    I have never been challenged to prove my residence in 6 years cruising the Med, but that is not to say it couldn't happen. Utility Bills could be a problem, though no doubt Tony could have his sister's electricity billed in his name if he really wanted to. More simply, there is nothing to stop him changing his address with the DVLA to his sister's address so that his driving licence has that addess printed on it. Though much reviled in the UK, our photo-licences are very useful in Europe as they are accepted as ID in very many situations avoiding the need to cart your valuable passport around.

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    Default Re: Possibly

    I've been challenged by La Rochelle douaniers to produce evidence of VAT status on one occasion, but like Medman never by anyone to prove I'm an EU resident!

    Why do you think there is a problem with using a friend's address, are you aware of any case where it has been challenged?

    The way UK authorities work, it seems like they are happy to regard all citizens as resident regardless, unless that person can and does successfully claim non-residence for tax purposes.


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    Default Clarification

    If after 6 months in French waters, without a permanent domicile outside France ie you're living on your boat - you are in French law compelled to register the boat as French, pay the necessary dues and tariffs and get yourself a French certificate of competence.

    You'll not be asked for proof of UK address until you and the boat have been in France for 6 months.

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    Default Address afloat

    I would prefer not to put my family to the trouble or make them feel awkward in any way, if for any reason they didn't want to do this for me. Are there any other satisfactory ways - e.g. acceptable to Banks, BUPA, DVLA, Doctors, IR, etc.?

    Does the Cruising Association help with this - now that I am committed to living aboard I'm going to join the CA in any case.

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    Default Re: Address afloat

    No, the CA don't, but I would never-the-less heartily commend membership to you.

    There are a couple of commercial concerns that advertise mail-forwarding in the back of YM. These companies will receive your mail, forward it on request, purchase spares on your behalf and ship them to you and generally act as a point of contact for you in the UK. Geoff Pack's widow did it for a while, though I am not sure if she still does.

    What these companies, or your Solicitor, or any other commercial concern cannot do for you is to give you a 'permanent' address in this country even when you are not here, which is what some of the previous posters were wishing to achieve.

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    Thanks for that. I couldn't find anything in March YM but I googled 'accommodation address uk' and found a company in Bournemouth offering an accommodation address both for businesses and specifically for private users who are between houses, travelling long term, etc. For 15 pm plus extra postage over a certain limit, you get a private-sounding address e.g.

    Flat 18
    246 Ashley Road
    Parkstone
    Bournemouth
    BH14 9BZ

    They forward on the mail to you. They are at <A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.secondaddress.com>www.secondaddress.com</A>

    Does anyone here have any experience of this firm or any others?

    Not wishing to have much of my portfolio in property at the present time, I am intending to buy an inexpensive holiday let property and let it with Country Cottages or similar, blocking off dates during which I will be back in the UK. When I have bought this property I shall use it to store all of my effects and as my 'official residence' still using the mail forwarding service while I am away. Until I have bought the property, I shall store my effects with Spaces but we are getting rid of all but the most personal things anyway.

    Does that sound reasonable? I'd appreciate any comments or suggestions.

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    Default Re: Address afloat

    I've been doing a bit of investigation and it seems that the company present at that address is not connected with 'secondaddress.com' but has had a couple of referrals in the past. Not the impression you get when you view the website. The 0870 number on the website only reaches an answering machine and I haven't had a reply (at 1440) after leaving a message at 0900. I shan't proceed with these people.

    I have found an alternative. Mail Boxes Etc. is owned by UPS and has franchises all over the country. These seem to be well situated in high streets and offer other business services as well as mail forwarding. Further details see:-

    <A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.mbe.uk.com/>www.mbe.uk.com</A>

    I spoke to the franchise owner in their Reading office and he sounded friendly and businesslike. I will probably give them a try unless anyone here has any comments....?

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