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  1. #21
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    Default Re: Fraudulent Insurance Be Careful

    Hello I am back home now 01752 872123 or 07812192832
    I would be interested to speak.
    Peter

  2. #22
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    So do anyone think there is a real insurance company behind Edward William or is it a total scam?

    I am in a particular situation and after about 60 hours of search trough about 40 insurers, I have very little options left. Either them or pay another insurer about 4% of vessel value every year (the norm being around 0.7%). So I will probably take up insurance with Edward William, hope it is a case of just seing the wrong side of things on the internet...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mistroma View Post
    Peter,

    SailorSnook joined in 2009 and only ever posted twice (2009 and 2013). I suppose he might be due to post again sometime soon.

    It would be worth sending him a PM by clicking on his name above the initial message and choosing Private Message. You might find that this triggers an email notification to his own email and could be quicker than waiting for him to spot your post.

    I see that his name was Malcolm Snook and he did have a web-site (www.sailorsnook.com). Unfortunately, that appears to be defunct and may be a dead end. I think that the website was in use up to March 2016 and is no longer registered. I don't think that the site held much detailed information.

    I did note that there was an icon relating to "Land Sea Sky World Peace Foundation" and I see that there's a Malcolm Snook on Twitter (Author, pacifist and sailor). It would be worth using Twitter as an other avenue.

    Sorry I can't be of more help.
    How is it going with the action against Edward William ? I see they are still advertising and trading, i was looking at taking out insurance with them but i am very weary after reading the bad reviews.

  4. #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by petertelford View Post
    Yes. 07812192832. Or 01752872123 Peter Telford.
    Sandyman, Graham 376 can you pass this on to Tony on Holy Mackerel, looks like the same insurance company?

  5. #25
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    Default Re: Fraudulent Insurance Be Careful

    Quote Originally Posted by Catamaran Cockatoo View Post
    So do anyone think there is a real insurance company behind Edward William or is it a total scam?

    I am in a particular situation and after about 60 hours of search trough about 40 insurers, I have very little options left. Either them or pay another insurer about 4% of vessel value every year (the norm being around 0.7%). So I will probably take up insurance with Edward William, hope it is a case of just seing the wrong side of things on the internet...
    If the "norm" is around 0.7%, why do you have to pay 4%? I'm surprised anyone is willing to take a chance that the above is not a scam, with the potential to lose everything you possess in the event of an uninsured third party claim against you.

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    Default Re: Fraudulent Insurance Be Careful

    Quote Originally Posted by Catamaran Cockatoo View Post
    So do anyone think there is a real insurance company behind Edward William or is it a total scam?

    I am in a particular situation and after about 60 hours of search trough about 40 insurers, I have very little options left. Either them or pay another insurer about 4% of vessel value every year (the norm being around 0.7%). So I will probably take up insurance with Edward William, hope it is a case of just seing the wrong side of things on the internet...
    Why are others quoting you so high? In any event it cannot be worth paying anything at all to a company with a reputation for refusing all claims. Can anyone produce evidence that this company have ever paid a claim? There are plenty of people on this forum who have had valid claims paid out by the likes of Pantaenious, Bishop Skinner, GJW, and other reputable insurers, but I have never seen anyone say that Northern Reef have actually paid out, so why risk it? Bite the bullet and pay for insurance you can trust.
    Last edited by Norman_E; 25-09-19 at 10:48.
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  7. #27
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    It seems weird that someone would make a first post to the effect that they will risk using this company. The rest of the post doesn't exactly inspire confidence in the company.

    I can't think of any reason to even give this company a try.

  8. #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mistroma View Post
    It seems weird that someone would make a first post to the effect that they will risk using this company. The rest of the post doesn't exactly inspire confidence in the company.

    I can't think of any reason to even give this company a try.
    Unless a vested interest?

  9. #29
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    Default Re: Fraudulent Insurance Be Careful

    Quote Originally Posted by Graham376 View Post
    Unless a vested interest?
    You might very well think that; I couldn't possibly comment.

  10. #30
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    Default Re: Fraudulent Insurance Be Careful

    Quote Originally Posted by Mistroma View Post
    It seems weird that someone would make a first post to the effect that they will risk using this company. The rest of the post doesn't exactly inspire confidence in the company.

    I can't think of any reason to even give this company a try.
    You might, specially if you were voyaging. I did for a couple of years, fully aware of Northern Reef/Edward Williams reputation. For the price - a fraction of any reputable company, no survey required, and very little restriction on destination or type of use - you get an authentic looking document which can be waved at those marinas, and those countries, which insist on yacht insurance.

    Perhaps too, at the back of my mind, was that if they were so tricky with their own customers, they would serve equally to mire any third-party claim against me.

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