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    Default Westerly Centaur - Weight for road towing

    Hi Guys,



    Could someone please tell me the weight of the Centaur I need to tow her back from the Boat yard. The trailer weighs 700 kg.

    What sort of towing vehicle would be useful.



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    http://sailboatdata.com/viewrecord.asp?class_id=671

    3039kg

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    never know if I will have to move on in the future

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    At the risk of disappointing you, I would say a centaur is too heavy to tow by road using any normal vehicle. You'll need to get a lorry with a hiab and shift her that way, I would think.

    This is based on my own experiences of towing an albin vega- design weight of 2.3t as opposed to the centaur's 3t. Boats are always heavier than designed, and design weight probably won't include any of the gear onboard e.g. the mast.

    For reference, the most anybody can tow using a normal license and vehicle with overrun brakes on the trailer is 3.5t. To do this you need a defender, disco, range rover, trooper, patrol, or one of the larger shoguns. A hilux or l200 is not rated for this,nor are the series landrovers. I also think there are a few vans that can do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tarik View Post
    Could someone please tell me the weight of the Centaur I need to tow her back from the Boat yard. The trailer weighs 700 kg.
    Officially 6,700 lb as built. That's completely empty; yours will certainly be more.

    What sort of towing vehicle would be useful.
    Since 6,700lb is 3,040kg you need to be able to tow at least 3,740kg and probably significantly more. My similarly sized boat has a cruising weight of a ton greater than empty.

    Parkers has a list of cars which can tow 3,500kg at http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/advice...wing-capacity/ so a start woul dbe to check each of these. Note that unless you have had a licence since before 1st January 1997 you'll need to pass a further test to tow anything that heavy: https://www.gov.uk/towing-with-car has the details.

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    According to this site https://www.gov.uk/towing-with-car/c...d-width-limits

    Width and length
    The maximum trailer width for any towing vehicle is 2.55 metres. The maximum length is 7 metres for a trailer towed by a vehicle weighing up to 3.5 tonnes (3,500 kilograms).

    Useful info here http://www.parkers.co.uk/company-car...rchive/Towing/

    Looks like towing a Centaur with a car is either illegal or very close to it.
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    The regulations on size (rather than weight) are a bit confusing. You are allowed fairly large overhangs as well as the trailer's a-frame, on top of the length restriction.

    To sum up, though, it is clearly illegal to tow a Centaur on a 700kg trailer using a conventional licence/hitch/brakes/vehicle. I would vote for a hi ab, easy peasy when you have bilge keels.
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    I once towed a Macwester 26 on a heavy trailer about 20 miles using a Series III Landrover. Never again!
    Probably more illegal now than it was then!

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    Quote Originally Posted by vyv_cox View Post
    The maximum trailer width for any towing vehicle is 2.55 metres. The maximum length is 7 metres for a trailer towed by a vehicle weighing up to 3.5 tonnes (3,500 kilograms).
    There is an exception to the length restriction for trailers designed specially to carry a single indivisible load. This covers glider trailers, for example, though the police sometimes "forget" it and at one point the British Gliding Association had to get a letter from the DoT which pilots could show to sceptical cops if pulled over. From memory there is a similar exemption for width, though there is a point at which you need a police escort.

    Looks like towing a Centaur with a car is either illegal or very close to it.
    Agreed.

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    A Transit van can tow quite a weight, I'm told. I'm thinking of hiring one for my own towing exploits. Quite cheap to hire as well. Mind you Parkers shows I can tow 1900kg with my own car (which only weighs 1550kg) can this be right? http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/review...nt-2008/39911/
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    Quote Originally Posted by ghostlymoron View Post
    A Transit van can tow quite a weight, I'm told. I'm thinking of hiring one for my own towing exploits. Quite cheap to hire as well.
    Varies a lot depending on model. A front wheel drive version is less than 2t IIRC; the double-wheeled rear drive versions with larger engines are much more capable.
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