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  1. #1
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    Default Pilot recommendations for the Ionian and Greece & Charts too

    Hi all.

    I wonder if I can tap your brains for recommendations for the best pilot.

    On the chart front, I am pretty resigned to buying all the Imray charts since I discovered that UKHO have stopped producing their excellent value SC577x Greek folios. More importantly, they no longer issue corrections for these charts so I can't even use my old charts. Grrrr.)

    Anyway, on the subject of pilots ....
    There seem to be three choices for detail on the Ionian.
    (1) Rod Heikell's Ionian pilot from Imray - 2011 Edition - £18

    (2) North Ionian eAlmanac - ebook, downloadable from http://ioniansailingpilot.com/ - Last update on their blog is Dec 2012 - £10

    (3) The Eagle Ray Greece, Sea Guide III by Nicholas Elias. - 2009 edition - Euros 90!!! But sounds like it includes ?all? the charts for the area


    I have always relied on my old copy of Rod Hiekell's pilots (Ionian version and the hardback Greek Waters one) and have enjoyed his style. I have found everything that I need in them but that has been on charters and flotillas where I have revisited the same old haunts and only explored a few new areas each year. This year, I will have 6 months to do a lot more exploring and I wondered if any of the others are better for 'off piste' stuff. My editions are very dated so I plan to treat myself to some new books.

    I know absolutely nothing about the other pilots other than some good reviews for Elias' pilot on older threads on this forum. With the charts included (and a larger area of coverage) they seem reasonable value if the content is still relevant and as good as the reviews of a few years ago say.

    I will be cruising further afield (within Greece) when the Ionian gets busy in the high summer but for the immediate future, I will be in the ionian. The pilot books will be my sole companions for much of the summer so which one/s would you suggest that I take along for company?

    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravi View Post
    (1) Rod Heikell's Ionian pilot from Imray - 2011 Edition - £18
    Marginally cheaper, and with free delivery on Amazon: http://amzn.to/OAepBV

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    Captain Elias has written in great detail ,in his book from Eagle Ray , many interesting local facts and folklore.
    I use it all the time , yes expensive, but very comprehensive .
    a good read as well as a good pilot .
    grafozz

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    Rod Heikell every time for me.
    Born to completely mess it up.

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    If you need charts as well I would go for Captain Elias. Whilst I do like Heikel, Elias covers a greater number of anchorages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grafozz View Post
    Captain Elias has written in great detail ,in his book from Eagle Ray , many interesting local facts and folklore.
    I use it all the time , yes expensive, but very comprehensive .
    a good read as well as a good pilot .
    Quote Originally Posted by nickf View Post
    If you need charts as well I would go for Captain Elias. Whilst I do like Heikel, Elias covers a greater number of anchorages.
    +1

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    Heikel's pilots are great for the history of a place, but the Elias pilot is great for chartlets, and pilotage.

    Detail in the Eagle Ray seems to be quite current as far as the Dodecanese goes.

    Why scrimp? Get both.

    PT

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    Quote Originally Posted by truscott View Post
    Heikel's pilots are great for the history of a place, but the Elias pilot is great


    PT
    Get the Eagle Ray chart book. I have one for the Aegean and since buying it the god Heikell has been collecting dust.

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    Eagle Ray every time

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    Quote Originally Posted by grafozz View Post
    Captain Elias has written in great detail ,in his book from Eagle Ray , many interesting local facts and folklore.
    I use it all the time , yes expensive, but very comprehensive .
    a good read as well as a good pilot .
    If it wasn't for the New Greek Tax you could afford ten of them

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