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  1. #411
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    Default Re: Levington boaters allegedly fined €500 in Belgium for red diesel

    I spent much of this summer in Holland & Belgium. I note that there are many fishing boats and thousands of yachts and numerous filling stations selling white diesel, but the subject of duty free fuel was never mentioned in any conversation and no hand wringing angst about it.
    How do these these EU citizens manage that?

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    Default Re: Levington boaters allegedly fined €500 in Belgium for red diesel

    As I said earlier, I would much prefer to use white but I would like to use FAME free. Trouble is, it appears that ALL road diesel (read white) in the EU has by law to contain 7% bio-ethanol so even if the ‘Red’ issue were settled, getting FAME free white won’t be possible without a further change in the law. How likely is that at the moment?
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    Default Re: Levington boaters allegedly fined €500 in Belgium for red diesel

    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Tribe View Post
    I spent much of this summer in Holland & Belgium. I note that there are many fishing boats and thousands of yachts and numerous filling stations selling white diesel, but the subject of duty free fuel was never mentioned in any conversation and no hand wringing angst about it.
    How do these these EU citizens manage that?
    And with Bio added too Oh how they must have suffered these past 20 yrs
    Brexit: ‘taking back’ what we had never lost, in order to lose everything we had...

  4. #414
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    Default Re: Levington boaters allegedly fined €500 in Belgium for red diesel

    Quote Originally Posted by sailorman View Post
    And with Bio added too Oh how they must have suffered these past 20 yrs
    Dunno, did they all buy new engines?
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  5. #415
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    Default Re: Levington boaters allegedly fined €500 in Belgium for red diesel

    Perhaps any money raised in tax could replace local 'conservation/navigation charges'.

  6. #416
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    Default Re: Levington boaters allegedly fined €500 in Belgium for red diesel

    I sent an email yesterday to the Harbour Master at Ramsgate. Here is his reply, self explanatory really.

    Good morning Karl

    Thank you for your enquiry.

    We presently serve three fuels for leisure vessels at Ramsgate from our own fuel barge; these are FAME free red marine gas oil, white diesel (not FAME free) and unleaded petrol.

    We're hoping that in line with the recent ruling, the industry will soon be in a position to be able to provide FAME free white diesel.
    Kind regards



    Robert Brown.



    Harbour Master & Marine Operations Manager
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  7. #417
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    Default Re: Ostende and red diesel - BEWARE

    Quote Originally Posted by sailorman View Post
    And with Bio added too Oh how they must have suffered these past 20 yrs
    Yes! So much so that it has been totally erased from our minds.
    It is highly entertaining watching the endless discussions about diesel from across the North Sea.

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    Default Re: Ostende and red diesel - BEWARE

    Quote Originally Posted by westhinder View Post
    Yes! So much so that it has been totally erased from our minds.
    It is highly entertaining watching the endless discussions about diesel from across the North Sea.
    Typical English
    Brexit: ‘taking back’ what we had never lost, in order to lose everything we had...

  9. #419
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    Default Re: Ostende and red diesel - BEWARE

    Thread in scuttlebutt saying a boat has been recently fined £500 for red diesel in Belgium. Bought in Dover 100% full duty paid etc.

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    Default Re: Ostende and red diesel - BEWARE


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