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  1. #21
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    Bloody hell.....WELL DONE! Great thread. I'm mega impressed. How on earth did you learn all those skills. Do keep posting even though it makes some of us feel totally incompetent!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanilla View Post
    Bloody hell.....WELL DONE! Great thread. I'm mega impressed. How on earth did you learn all those skills. Do keep posting even though it makes some of us feel totally incompetent!
    + 1 on that. I think He taught himself most of this and I love the way he manages to do things very cheaply. So many people think boating is only for the well off and to some degree this can be true but this chap shows people the other side of the coin and the speed at which he works is incredible.

    I think those that mostly employ others to do their work should be inspired by this thread to have a go themselves.

    Dennis

  3. #23
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    Really appreciate the comments guys, I just love DIY, on cars and boats, infact anything, i see if some body else can do it then i can, maybe not as good as a pro but still i did it, makes me feel chuffed that i have done and not paid somebody else to do it. No pride in the project them. Admit it can be stressful at times, and dam hard work,but as said, you sit back and see what you have done and feel better about it.
    And boats as we know are not cheap, this one is but then is not, what i have spent i dont want to know, i could of gone and got one ready to go, thing is it will not be in as good nick as this when done.
    Would be good if this encourages more folk to DIY more, such pride when you do.

    thanks again for the comments


    Yesterday i started the side ribs, got one side done as i cant get to the other yet until i push the boat over so its one side at a time. amazing how much sturdier it is with just the bearers and ribs in.

    As the original were 2x2 i used the same, i could of used the old fixing holes but in the 40 years of this boats life it has had a new strakes/ribs fitted as you mite be able to make out in the pics. Instead though i drilled more for these new ribs, not decide yet if i will be fitting wooden rubbing strakes but thye are there for when i do decide.

    I kept the same length of ribs, as the hull is a little curved it braced the new ones in place.




    the lower rib goes through the bulkhead, thought it mite help keep more rigid.


    Oh yes more grinding/sanding back was needed for the good surface for laminating later, thank god for dust masks


    To ensure i got the correct line for drilling hole from the outside i drilled small holes along the bottom of the batten so then on the outside i could find the correct line for drilling for the fixing the screws. i stuck a few screws in the holes to find the holes easier.


    I drilled and counter sunk the holes for the fixing screws and marked just so i know where they are, going loopy a bit nowadays so these little things help lol.


    I just used N o5 30mm screws to hold it place as the GRP will do the main job. As said above i started to laminate tonight but i am tired and as yesterday aslo i forgot to radius the edges of the battens to get a better bond of the GRP and made a mess of it so instead of chucking a spanner......eerrr brush, i left it and will amend maybe tomorrow. No big deal.
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  4. #24
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    At long long last we have a floor fitted, and fitted good aswell i reckon, I used 18mm hardwood ply for it, aso the same for the transom which is to be shown later on in this post.

    To get the shape of the rear section i just measured the width every 18 inch, as the sheet is a full 2440mm or eight foot it reached the last bearer with leaving 3 inch, or 75mm at the bulkhead, i dont mind this as i want a full air flow through the bilge as there is also a 4 inch gap in the bow. I am complicating things here with imperial and metric, sorry Dont know why i do that.


    Then the front i used a long straight edge with a marker pen taped to it to get the curver as near as possible, then to find the curve i measured the width evey 6 inch and marked it down on the sheet, you can just see the line in the pic below. .


    With the help of my lacky )) w eused a ally strip, a part we ddint use the the windows as were not needed, it help get the curve of the bow floor.



    And hey presto the floor ready to be fettled by chamfering the edge to sit lower on the bearers and bring the edge closer to the hull for a better fit.




    We resined the floor all over to give a better water proof finish and longer lasting also.


    I sanded all around the egde of the floor before i laid it in place, again for better holding of the new resin and wiped don with acetone.



    Bilge hatch, hope i got this in the correct place lol



    At this stage i used the Purocol again to stick the floor to the bearers and then screwed it down to them, this aint going anywhere

    The EXPERIMENT )) worked, i messed the other day with this to see how it would go, and its dam good stuff, i used some of the Cascamite and instead of using water to mix it i used the fibreglass resin to get a filler of what ever consistency i need, i sampled it on a few bits of wood to wood and also wood to fibreglass. Once i found that was good i used it as a filler for the damage to the hull, christ it sticks well, pig to sand back though, still though better than car body filler which is easy sand as its water proof unlike car filler.

    I used it all around the egde of the floor to give a dam good hold for the floor and to help blend the floor to the hull for laminating.



    That was left to set for a good few hours before the last stage and that was to laminate the edge of the floor in place with two laminations of 450grm CSM, as usual.



    I havnt yet sampled how solid it feels but it felt good with just the floor on the bearers, this hull should be good know for the extra strength, i have done it this much incase we do get to take it to sea,

  5. #25
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    Now the transom, BIG job again as it needs to be stronger for if taken to sea therefore its made from two 18mm hardwood ply sheet laminated together with the Cascamite resin again, `poo to a blanket` i think they call it.
    Its is not complete yet a si ran out of resin filler, will get some ASAP.

    Sorry no detailed pics but i just cut the shape the first sheet with a good overlap around the old transom, well what left as it will be getting bolted to it along with resin filler and laminating.

    Spread a nice layer all over the first sheet before we clamped and screwed it all together to hold it good and tight.


    Here it is when dreid the day after, here you can see i chamfered the edge all around where it will meet the original transom, this is to get a smooth blend in for the grp to geta good hold and no sharp corners, CSM does not go around sharp corners.




    The new transom is going to be resin/glued and screwed to the 3x2 beam before cutting out the engine gap, not a clue what that part is called but where the engine clamps to, and all laminated over in and out to make good. plus a few more bits though inbetween.





    I have to say this boat is killing me, but i love it, cant darn wait to get it on the canal eight months to go, as if hey

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    Fantastic project read all your posts today. Keep up the good work and the great posts. This is proper Practical Boat Owner!

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    Yes keep it up I am loving this thread

    Dennis

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    When I saw the first post I thought it was a troll but when I saw the boat being craned I thought "Hang on..." . Really following your posts with interest now and looking forward to seeing the boat in the water. Keep us posted, one of the best threads/projects I've ever seen on here...
    Warning - Internet forums may contain nuts

  9. #29
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    I have been called worse than a troll at times lol. And your `Warning - Internet forums may contain nuts` is so true, people think i am a full KP bag of fully slated but i love it

    Not much has been done, a few problems have turned up, first i was getting some sanding done and the sander decided to pack in, motor burned out, i thought it was the brushes so i replaced them but it is the motor, not even mine as i borrowed it off a mate so i need to replace it for him now, oh and them a few days ago i was getting on with the transom, griding back the edge and the grinder packed in sad.png

    Now as it was i had just and the moment the grinder packed in, finished tapering the edge for the new transom so i could atleast do a bit more,and a bit is was. I ran out of resin to get the part i wanted to, just the outer skin.

    A quicky of what i have done to the boat.

    I used perspex again, as i had it lying around and trying to hold back on pennies, like £20 on a sheet of wood lol.



    I know it looks a bodge up but have a bit of faith it will be fine when done wink.png You can just see i have blued it, two coats is plenty.


    I laminated four of the 450grm again to give the 6mm thickness but around the edge another two, so six in all.



    This i left overnight then came the time to pray i dont break the perspex as i want this for the other side, i can get heavy handed at times and break things, all went good though, a hose pipe and a wedge and wiggle and it came free easy.



    trimmed back a little needs more when ready to do the rest and other side.





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    Todays job, dont ask why but all i did wall cll a local joiners for a price for the rubbing strakes and i just said yes i will have them, and when funds have gone awol with tools breaking and car needs work done asap.

    I am using Sapele again like my last boat i did. this wood is great to work with and look lovely when stained with Dutch oil, it is 60mmx20mm and bull nosed, i got the joiners to do it for me, saves me faffing with the router myself

    No big deal in pics or info as its basic wooden bits drilled and well thats it.


    I have got them drilled and sanded back, a good few judder marks on them and even small damage marks, i will go to the other joiners i did last time for the lower strakes. 15 miles away but good quality job done and service, not keen of being charged more than said.




    Well that was boring wasnt it, so here is a bit of fun, i am sad lol. In between thr last few updates i was told i need to move my stuff, well junk lol. I have made a tool trolly to keep my gear inplace, to be honest i am greatfull of it as i am sick of spending time looking for my tape measure, square, drills etc etc.

    I used a few off cuts of the ply i got for the boat, i can get more when needed for it. And the fittings are from a caravan i ripped out once, the brass handle from a pile of boat bits i found in the shed.





    Now lets see if i remeber to put the tools away in the cabinet.....

    Now a better update as this affy after work i started to do a bit more on the transom, it will be set tomorrow fully so then i can get on with the rest, as its is going to be a good weekend for weather i hope to get a lot done, maybe even upto the engine well being worked on.

    I did the same as the other half here but the lower 8 inch of the vertical joint i made it real strong, not that it matter a great deal as the ply transom will be going in next.

    Blued



    And laminated




    Oh yes, i am not sure if folk have been taking note but when fibreglassing you need a good cleaned finish to laminate to, and my grinder has packed in, so time to improvise, i have some grinder sanding disc here, and a drill, and a bolt with large washers and nut, just need to get the disc as central a sposs..rack of the eye will do and hey ho we have a HD sander



    Easy sands back the GRP with 36g, mite even try it with a cutting disc. Dowt it will explode as a drill doesnt go as fast as a grinder, but fast enough to cut GRP.

    so keep [poppingback this weekend to see more, i plan to get loads done........dam i said it PLAN, i dont make plans for a good reason.

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