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    Default Gel coat colour - does this mean anything to anyone?

    So I have someone booked to go over Seralia and fix 22 years of dings.
    Ferretti boats aren't white so I sled them what the colour was.
    There response is:

    GELCOAT BEIGE 484 DSM.

    This mean nothing to my GRP guy.
    Anyone know what this might mean - I assume the 484 is a colour code but we don't know on which system

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    Default Re: Gel coat colour - does this mean anything to anyone?

    Google search
    Ral 484 dsm
    Ral is an international colour standard

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    Default Re: Gel coat colour - does this mean anything to anyone?

    The paint shop in Antibes has a bucket of gel coat samples you can borrow to match the colour, maybe somewhere near st carles can do the same. The tricky thing is that your gel will have yellowed, so you may not want to match the original colour, but new gel coat will yellow at a faster rate than the old, so you don't want to match the current colour either! I imagine it's less of a problem with the creamy Ferretti gel though.

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    Default Re: Gel coat colour - does this mean anything to anyone?

    Dunno but Scott Vader gel coat colour are 3 digits?

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    Default Re: Gel coat colour - does this mean anything to anyone?

    If there's something I know nothing about of all boat-related stuff, it's gelcoat - for obvious reasons!
    But DSM is a big chemical company, and IIRC they have a paints and coatings division.
    So, maybe the "DSM" part of that code is just the supplier name...?
    Just a thought.

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    Default Re: Gel coat colour - does this mean anything to anyone?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nick_H View Post
    The paint shop in Antibes has a bucket of gel coat samples you can borrow to match the colour, maybe somewhere near st carles can do the same. The tricky thing is that your gel will have yellowed, so you may not want to match the original colour, but new gel coat will yellow at a faster rate than the old, so you don't want to match the current colour either! I imagine it's less of a problem with the creamy Ferretti gel though.
    Yes, we are anticipating having to mix a colour and I'm bringing some removable panels back with me this month.
    The GRP guys says though it would still be better to start with the original colour and tone it down/up rather than start with a random beige.

    If that is the RAL number then that would be good though I think RAL are 4 digit.
    Last edited by Whitelighter; 10-11-16 at 20:16.

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    Default Re: Gel coat colour - does this mean anything to anyone?

    I've just this week had the same issue with matching the cream shade on my 10yr old Azimut, the yard's resident gel coat wizard mixed a teeny bit of yellow and a dot of green with a white base and got to the shade pretty quickly. We didn't need enough to warrant flying it in from Italy.

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    Default Re: Gel coat colour - does this mean anything to anyone?

    Quote Originally Posted by Whitelighter View Post
    If that is the RAL number then that would be good though I think RAL are 4 digit.
    Yes RAL numbers are generally 4 digit and yes DSM is a large German chemical co who do supply resins but exactly what 484 DSM is or where you can buy it I dont know. I would be very careful about allowing somebody to try to match the Ferretti gelcoat colour. As you well know it is a specific cream colour and it is difficult to match. I made the mistake of allowing a yard to carry out some minor gelcoat repairs on my last Ferretti and they didn't do a great job of matching it so the repairs were visibly different to the existing gelcoat if you looked carefully. IMHO you should try to get the right gelcoat colour even though your existing gelcoat will have faded a bit

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    Default Re: Gel coat colour - does this mean anything to anyone?

    Quote Originally Posted by mikef View Post
    DSM is a large German chemical co
    They used to be NL based, actually.
    But I might have lost the plot lately...
    ...not that it matters for Jez, anyway!

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    Default Re: Gel coat colour - does this mean anything to anyone?

    Quote Originally Posted by MapisM View Post
    They used to be NL based, actually.
    But I might have lost the plot lately...
    ...not that it matters for Jez, anyway!
    German, Dutch they're all the same to us now that we've voted to leave

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