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    Default Re: Electric windlass

    Quote Originally Posted by richardh10 View Post
    Ok, so although it has taken a little time, I am now ready to run the cabling for a lofrans Cayman windlass. The question I have is does it matter where the solenoid is situated? I have an ideal spot for the breaker near the battery at the stern, but should the solenoid be nearer the windlass, or could it be next to the breaker

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    Richard all the boats I gave own and I own quite a few in my time the solenoid had always been close to the windlass ,
    Someone will be along shortly to say why .

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    Make sure you think through the access for maintenance for a vertical winch. I can just enter my chain locker but the winch motor is heavy and working on your back supporting it while securing it is hard work.
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    Voltage drop is the main issue with windlass cabling, but provided appropriate cables are used it makes no difference where the solenoid pack is located, in terms of voltage loss.

    The Cayman has the negative going straight to the motor and the positive going to tto the solenoid, then tow positive cables going to the motor. Mounting the solenoid aft means another boat length of cable. Of no consequence to voltage drop as it only uses two at a time (forward/reverse), just the issue of cost. Depending how long your boat is, could add £150 to the fitting bill.
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    Default Re: Electric windlass

    Unless you have a reversing windlass, there will be one heavy +ve cable from the battery to the solenoid and 2+ve cables from the solenoid to the windlass. Putting the solenoid near the windlass reduces the amount of cable you have to buy.

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    Default Re: Electric windlass

    Quote Originally Posted by richardh10 View Post
    Ok, so although it has taken a little time, I am now ready to run the cabling for a lofrans Cayman windlass. The question I have is does it matter where the solenoid is situated? I have an ideal spot for the breaker near the battery at the stern, but should the solenoid be nearer the windlass, or could it be next to the breaker

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    If the motor has 3 connections one negative and 2 positive (one for each direction) it is better to have the solenoid as close to the motor as possible as you will use less cable.

    If the motor only has 2 connections it does not matter as you will use the same amount of cable either way.

    Cables from the battery to the solenoid and the solenoid to the motors must be the same size.
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    Quote Originally Posted by neil1967 View Post
    Unless you have a reversing windlass, there will be one heavy +ve cable from the battery to the solenoid and 2+ve cables from the solenoid to the windlass. Putting the solenoid near the windlass reduces the amount of cable you have to buy.
    On the Cayman there is am neg and a plus that goes all the way to the solenoid then three cables coming from the windlass to the solenoid as Paul said

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    On my Lofrans the heavy neg cable goes direct to the windlass, with a light neg cable being used to operate the solenoid - one less join in the heavy neg cable. Irrespective the end result is the same in terms of heavy cable lengths which ever way it is wired.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neil1967 View Post
    On my Lofrans the heavy neg cable goes direct to the windlass, with a light neg cable being used to operate the solenoid - one less join in the heavy neg cable. Irrespective the end result is the same in terms of heavy cable lengths which ever way it is wired.
    Apologies, my post was badly worded. The negative does go to the windlass, i'm sure we all mean the same thing, one less cable with the solenoid forward

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    The mix up maybe because the cables on a Cayman are build in the motor and not bolted on , so the three cables that came from the windlass two poss and a neg , the neg is joined to the Neg that come from the battery and the two red poss go to the solenoid, up and down

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    I have been happy with a Quick Hector 1000 W on a 34 foot 8 ton boat. I often am singlehanded and find that being able to lower chain by controlling with the cockpit remote is invaluable when anchoring alone. I would not like to have less power.

    Due to a poor design on the chain lead (if the boat swung whilst hauling in the chain jammed rigidly in a V shaped gap by the bow roller) I stripped the main pinion in the windlass when in the Canaries. Quick in Italy gave excellent technical support in English and, at a price, shipped out a replacement to me very efficiently.

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