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  1. #1
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    Default The old windlass looks wrong

    The handle won't fit on the right hand side spigot above the rope capstan.
    So why is there a spigot there?

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Classic-S...kAAOSwGrNZgHL4

    This is not my advert and why anyone would buy such an item is beyond me. I was just flicking through winlasses and saw this one and thought it looked very odd.

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    Default Re: The old windlass looks wrong

    but so does this restored one:
    http://www.classicboat.co.uk/uncateg...-anchor-winch/

    What am I not getting? why do they both have short spigots for the handle over the warping drum that won't allow the handle to complete a full turn?

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    Default Re: The old windlass looks wrong

    Guess 1: For a long lever when extra grunt is needed.

    Guess 2: For a handle with an offset centre.
    "Seamen are always wanting to do things the proper way; and I like to do them my way."

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    Default Re: The old windlass looks wrong

    Looks to me as if the pinion and shaft were assembled back to front (actually flipped over, left to right)... unless it is I who is missing something!
    Should we paint what is on a face, what is inside it, or what is behind it?

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    Default Re: The old windlass looks wrong

    The one on ebay and on the restoration website look the same though, and the restoration man surely would not have reversed spigot?
    As for a long handle, yes, but why not extend the spigot so the handle does not foul on the warping drum?
    They look simple, and strong, but the short spigot is perplexing me. (I have a Royal lofrans manual and it is great and the handle fits into the warping drum and does not foul on anything except the deck, but there is a ratchet so I don't have to take handle out and reset and these old things just don't look logical / but I could be missing a trick.

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    Default Re: The old windlass looks wrong

    There should be a 'thingy' that fits over the short spigot I think.
    https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=si...S8lYUqaqUFylM:
    Presumably the spigot is short to facilitate rope-handling.
    The only profound thing about me is my ignorance.

  7. #7
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    Default Re: The old windlass looks wrong

    The eBay windlass isn't quite the same as the one in the restoration website. The restoration one is an oil bath model, with the brake working on the external drum via a foot pedal. The eBay one has a a brake acting on the exposed main gear.

    However, both of them have a rope drum that would seem to foul the crank handle. No idea why that should be unless there's a missing extension to the spindle for the drum side.

    Edit: ah the post above seems to have nailed it. Extension required for the drum side.

  8. #8
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    Default Re: The old windlass looks wrong

    Mystery solved. Well done / an image to prove it too.
    The chap doing the restoration certainly did a good job. Hope he knows about the extension.
    cheers

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