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    Quote Originally Posted by rotrax View Post
    Well, that just shows how much you know about how others go about their lives Brent. Probably because normal life is of little interest to you.

    My wife became a good motorbike racer in her own right-even after the children came along she re-started her career. She is keener than I to get out on either of our boats, where she is I/C steering for berthing and mooring/anchoring.

    Your views on the worlds overpopulation have no place here, even though I agree with you. Unfortunately, unilateral action like yours is meaningless in the world we live in.

    I have the right sort of wife. Not all men are so fortunate. She is a petrol head, loves sailing and travel.

    After 51 years, I recon she is a keeper!
    So do tell us about all your steel boat building, designing , living aboard,maintaining , and ocean cruisng which makes you more qualified on this subject than someone who has been building ,designing, living aboard ,maintaining and cruising in steel boats for over 40 years, with so many of his designs out cruising.

    That is what this thread is about.
    By your posts, I suggest you search for "Better homes and gardens"for something more in your field of interest , of more interest to you.

    Seems you are only here to harass, jeer at, troll attack and join a pile on, for the joy of trolling, and joining a pile on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dom View Post
    Well, well, well:

    Shocking, almost unwatchable, then ..................
    https://youtu.be/euARI7PkOiA
    Amazing! Mine have pounded like that for weeks, and one for 4 months ,without serious damage.
    Met some amputees in the Cook islands who got between a boat and a reef.
    Very dangerous to get in the water like that.
    I have seen some survive, and others break up quickly in those conditions. Many around Comox have sunk quickly that way.

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    Probably because normal life is of little interest to you.
    Read more at http://www.ybw.com/forums/showthread...WRRMX7XU8xk.99
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    Nomal.
    Going to a job you hate, to make money you dont need, to buy stuff you dont need, to impress people you don't like!
    Yes, that is of little interest to me.

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    Your views on the worlds overpopulation have no place here, even though I agree with you. Unfortunately, unilateral action like yours is meaningless in the world we live in.
    Read more at http://www.ybw.com/forums/showthread...pFFqTymTjUC.99'[Quote ]
    It takes a lot of people taking unilateral action to make a difference . Questioning those who dont is a part of it. al we can do is our own part, and encouragement for others to consider it.I have done mine. Have you?

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    [QUOTE=Brent Swain;6699184]Probably because normal life is of little interest to you.
    Read more at http://www.ybw.com/forums/showthread...WRRMX7XU8xk.99
    Nomal.
    Going to a job you hate, to make money you dont need, to buy stuff you dont need, to impress people you don't like!
    Yes, that is of little interest to me.
    You see Brent, that is your problem. You consider others who dont opt out of society in the way you chose to be inferior.

    I liked my work, certainly did not hate it.

    I needed money to provide a home for my family, but mostly to indulge my passion for motorbike racing.

    I bought little I did not need, and any impressing I did was on the track. Never met most of those I was trying to impress-I was on the bike, they were in the crowd.

    Again, you judge others by your own limited experience of life.

    On your following post, as I said I am in agreement, but your premise is not practical by any measure.

    I have two sons, the elder has a son and a daughter.

    Like you, I have spent my life doing exactly what I wanted to do with it. And I still am!

    Unlike you however, I dont imply censure on those who have chosen a different path.

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    I must be within Brentís cross-hairs as I retired early and fully meet his definition of being a marina queen.

    I thoroughly enjoyed my working career as it gave me so many wonderful experiences. However, the best part of life for me is time spent with friends and family.

    For most of us, work is an important part of life as it facilitates the transition from a boy to a man and with it our ability to socialise. As we mature, life experiences tend to knock off our edges and make us more rounded as we learn, we understand, we tolerate and we respect others.

    With his life-long minimalist, vagabond sea-nomad lifestyle Brent seems to have missed this important part of evolution. Quite sad really, itís evident that he offers freely some good advice regarding steel boat maintenance but his trolling and unwavering views of plastic boats, yacht designers, chandlers and other people that donít share is jaundiced views, do him a disservice.
    Last edited by davidjackson; 12-02-19 at 08:17.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brent Swain View Post
    Amazing! Mine have pounded like that for weeks, and one for 4 months ,without serious damage.
    Met some amputees in the Cook islands who got between a boat and a reef.
    Very dangerous to get in the water like that.
    I have seen some survive, and others break up quickly in those conditions. Many around Comox have sunk quickly that way.
    Hammered like that for 4 months! Wow, lots of people must have taken vids and the local yachting press must have penned stories of wonderment!

    The trouble is, wonderment inevitably gives way to skepticism when grand claims are backed with little, or no data. To which end, my increasing sense is that your boats may be dangerous from a stability point of view. The GZ curve you posted - wherever it came from - was simply not credible, the ballast calcs are way off and there seems little intuitive recognition of safe loading.

    No detailed plans have been posted and as far as I know your vessels have received no official certifications. Then there is the unlikely claim that a lawyer professionally advised that there was no need for liability insurance having been told a few reef yarns. Not to mention an attitude towards fire prevention, liferafts, etc., which ignores the lessons of history and good practice.

    More recently, questions of steel maintenance are being lost in a haze of anti-capitalist, anarchistic rambles; ironically in this case, clearly made from shore side, not the clear blue sea. Such discussions should really be confined to the Lounge.

    Genuinely wishing you all the best for wherever 2019 takes you.
    Last edited by dom; 12-02-19 at 09:31.

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    My steel boat whilst moored up in a marina was rammed by a 24 foot yacht and the stem head made a dent and a small hole in the topsides.

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    If you find a job you would do for the love of it ,you will never work a day in your life.
    If that is what you want ,go for it. My posts are for those who dont want such a cookie cutter, idenitical life style ,constantly being told when to get up and what to do, day after day . They have a right to know of the alternatives ,and how to achieve them. Most of all, they have the right to know the alternatives ,regardless of you who seek to mislead them, into believing that the cookie cutter lifestyle is their only option

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    Quote Originally Posted by Achosenman View Post
    I don't want, need nor like steel boats for my sailing. If I intended to venture way down south or way up north I'd probably look at Ovni. I've been told steel is too much hassle from people I respect and who's judgement I trust. From your offerings, they can be pig ugly to boot.

    How many millions did you have in your account when you retired? Don't worry you needn't answer, you had diddly squat. What you call retirement we call being "on the dole"
    Your inability to find gainful employment is a similar situation many feckless dreamers have found themselves in. I will admit, not many wear it as a badge of honour, so kudos.

    You may know a bit about steel boats, (even a blind squirrel finds the occasional nut) but you demonstrate zero knowledge about modern GRP materials, strengths, weaknesses and uses. The old inch thick polyester resin with simple glass fibre matting is nothing like the choices available and in use by designers today. But that doesn't stop you pontificating ad nauseam about a subject you have repeatedly demonstrated your ignorance in, apart from the fact that it outsells your creations by a factor of many thousands to one.

    I have a test for you. Instead of a demolition derby, how about we get a tank constructed of GRP to boat building standards. (Modern) We then fill it with water, you jump in and hold your breath. We screw the lid down and you break out of the fragile plastic by shattering it from inside in-time to prevent yourself from drowning...I'd pay to see that.
    So what are you doing trolling a steel boat discussion? Obviously trying to kill exchange of info on steel boats, A freind with years of Southern ocean experince had an Ovni. Now she has a steel boat, with no intention of going back to aluminium, or any other material

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