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    Default Studland Bay - what you need to do

    The public consultation about Studland Bay MCZ together with Bembridge and Osborne Bays runs until July 20th. This is your chance to put your point of view across. BORG has done a great deal of groundwork, but DEFRA are well aware we are nothing more than a small group of well informed people. Now we need the boating community as a whole to stand up and be counted, and to show DEFRA just how many people feel strongly about this.

    Conservation is clearly needed to try and stop the breakdown of marine life in our seas, and ensuring the survival of Seagrasses is an important part of this. However, the proposals in these three key places are based on unfounded and unproven assumptions which almost entirely miss the point and in our view will be intrusive and ineffective. Ineffective not only because anchoring is clearly not a threat to eelgrass, but because the argument over Studland has eclipsed the real dangers to the eelgrass from pollution and commercial activities so that the eelgrass remains at risk. Intrusive, because if the conservation lobby have their way, several beautiful and important anchorages may be closed to us. WE are not opposed to conservation, but we believe the measures proposed simply do not match up to the facts.

    A leading Studland Resident has summed it up very clearly:

    Hello Again!
    Studland Bay has again been recommended by Defra to become an MCZ in their third and hopefully final Tranche. Fortunately Studland has previously been discarded in the first two tranches. Studland was found to be unsuitable due to lack of evidence that the Bay’s flora and fauna needed protection. We are all hopeful that Studland will again be discarded and remain free for all to enjoy. But...

    Below is the latest link about Studland;
    https://consult.defra.gov.uk/marine/...0Factsheet.pdf

    You will note that Anchoring and Moorings are blamed for the Eelgrass beds being in ‘unfavourable condition’.
    There is no evidence to prove that Anchoring and Moorings are to blame. Weather (Easterly gales) and Eutrophication may be contributory factors but NOT Boating activity.
    The usual nonsense about Seahorses is written into the case. As we have discovered Seahorses are found all around the UK coast, they must therefore breed in those locations. There is nothing significant or unusual about the occasional visiting Seahorse to Studland in the summer months.
    If you need further proof of all this have a look at Boat Owners Response Group website;
    http://boatownersresponse.org.uk/
    And in particular;
    http://boatownersresponse.org.uk/evidence/
    Or
    In brief;
    “Key points are that while anchoring has carried on in Studland Bay for decades, the eelgrass (seagrass) has been healthy and expanding in extent, apart from under the fixed chain moorings, as shown by aerial photography and an underwater video survey. No definitive evidence has been produced of any long term damage. Eelgrass is resilient stuff as shown by studies in the scientific literature, if disturbed it is fully capable of re-growing, like so many plants. If anchoring and mooring are banned at Studland, the local boating economy will be hit, to a much greater extent than the Defra document claims, and any conservation gain is likely to be minimal as the eelgrass is flourishing anyway. Our coastline should be regarded as a shared resource, and is important for recreation as well as conservation, and ways are needed to satisfy both demands – as is generally acknowledged.”

    Studland Bay is one of the most used Recreational Bays on the South Coast. It would be a great pity for unnecessary restrictions to be imposed which would limit people’s enjoyment.

    Please help by making your views known to Defra;
    mcz@defra.gsi.gov.uk
    and completing the Defra Consultation below and any other means you have of Saving Studland Bay.

    ONLINE PUBLIC CONSULTATION available at https://consult.defra.gov.uk/marine/...marine-conser/ .
    THE CONSULTATION IS OPEN FOR JUST SIX WEEKS and CLOSES ON JULY 20TH."
    Is Conservation for wildlife or conservationists?
    http://boatownersresponse.org.uk

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    Default Re: Studland Bay - what you need to do

    Excellent as usual Old Harry and BORG, mail sent to DEFRA.
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    Default Re: Studland Bay - what you need to do

    Done.
    The link above is a little broken so I have 'Tinyed' it:

    https://tinyurl.com/y9owmfcy

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    Default Re: Studland Bay - what you need to do

    Great initiative; thank you.

    Can you please be clearer about what action can be taken? Is an email sufficient? - you say to email and complete the consultation. Yet the consultation appears to be for industrial interested parties only. BTW, your link doesn't work.

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    Default Re: Studland Bay - what you need to do

    Why is this a sticky - ‘Cos it’s only 20 miles from the Solent?

    Possibly http://www.ybw.com/forums/showthread...ackwatershould become a sticky in the East Coast Forum?

    Possibly The South Coast or Just The Solent should have their own sub Forums and leave Scuttlebutt for topics of greater universal interest?

    Problem is too meany stickies clutter up a forum. A regular cull of dormant stickies can help.

    Just asking.
    Last edited by nortada; 12-06-18 at 08:53.
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    Default Re: Studland Bay - what you need to do

    Quote Originally Posted by nortada View Post
    Why is this a sticky - ‘Cos it’s only 20 miles from the Solent?

    Possibly http://www.ybw.com/forums/showthread...ackwatershould become a sticky in the East Coast Forum?

    Possibly The South Coast or Just The Solent should have their own sub Forums and leave Scuttlebutt for topics of greater universal interest?

    Problem is too meany stickies clutter up a forum. A regular cull of dormant stickies can help.

    Just asking.
    Im not a Moderator so although I am pleased it is a Sticky, I cant answer your question. However at least in part, there is a basic principle involved which does affect the whole boating community. This is the first MCZ proposal which involves anchor bans and ezxclusion zones within the proposal. There is a constitutional right of 'free navigation' in UK waters. If this recommendation is allowed through unchalleneged on such flimsy evidence, then this will set an extremely dangerous precedent for many other places on the coast. It is not just a local issue. It affects us all in the longer term. Studland just happens to be the focus on this occasion.
    Is Conservation for wildlife or conservationists?
    http://boatownersresponse.org.uk

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldharry View Post
    Im not a Moderator so although I am pleased it is a Sticky, I cant answer your question. However at least in part, there is a basic principle involved which does affect the whole boating community. This is the first MCZ proposal which involves anchor bans and ezxclusion zones within the proposal. There is a constitutional right of 'free navigation' in UK waters. If this recommendation is allowed through unchalleneged on such flimsy evidence, then this will set an extremely dangerous precedent for many other places on the coast. It is not just a local issue. It affects us all in the longer term. Studland just happens to be the focus on this occasion.
    Old Harry, thanks for getting back and the explanation. I see and accept the point you make.

    To be honest my first line was a bit tongue in cheek and from further examination it appears that Scuttlebutt is heavily populated with Solent and it’s Surrounds Sailors so possibly just a change of name.

    But just as the East Coast, Bristol Channel and Thames have their own forums, possibly as the densest area There should be a South Coast Forum?

    Possibly, so as not to detract from the Studland MCZ issue, this debate should form a new thread?

    What do you think?
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    Default Re: Studland Bay - what you need to do

    Nortada,

    I can't speak for Old Harry,

    but the importance of Studland Bay as an anchorage is especially strong for anyone transitting the south coast; it's the only spot of shelter from the prevailing south westerlies for a good many miles in either direction, so not just a nice pretty place to be on a Sunday afternoon, vital in the short handed sailor's battle against the Number One Enemy, Fatigue.
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    Default Re: Studland Bay - what you need to do

    Quote Originally Posted by SAPurdie View Post
    Done.
    The link above is a little broken so I have 'Tinyed' it:

    https://tinyurl.com/y9owmfcy
    SAPurdie's tiny url takes you direct to the consultation pages. The link giving access to the full Defra document is https://consult.defra.gov.uk/marine/...marine-conser/ and the consultation itself is accessed from a button on the page. Factsheets on each site are listed and linked lower down the page. Anchoring restrictions are being mooted only for Studland Bay and for the Bembridge r-MCZ at Priory Bay (eelgrass) and over the maerl beds on Culver Spit . The Studland factsheet is at https://consult.defra.gov.uk/marine/...0Factsheet.pdf Further info about the sites and their features can be found in Natural England's rather sparse "Advice" at http://publications.naturalengland.o...79955233931264 and open the Regional Project MCZ one. I'll be posting more stuff shortly, but BORG's evidence and data can be found at http://boatownersresponse.org.uk/ and especially http://boatownersresponse.org.uk/evidence/ , I'll try to highlight some key issues in further postings.
    Last edited by MarlynSpyke; 12-06-18 at 11:53.

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    Default Re: Studland Bay - what you need to do

    Quote Originally Posted by nortada View Post
    Old Harry, thanks for getting back and the explanation. I see and accept the point you make.

    To be honest my first line was a bit tongue in cheek and from further examination it appears that Scuttlebutt is heavily populated with Solent and it’s Surrounds Sailors so possibly just a change of name.

    But just as the East Coast, Bristol Channel and Thames have their own forums, possibly as the densest area There should be a South Coast Forum?

    Possibly, so as not to detract from the Studland MCZ issue, this debate should form a new thread?

    What do you think?
    i think the large number of contributors from the north of our islands and the southwest might take exception to this characterisation. it is inevitable that you get many contributors from the south coast - because that has the heaviest concentration of boat owners.

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