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  1. #91
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    Default Re: Golden Globe Race

    I am really surprised as I thought that Rustlers were as tough as old boots. Most of the fleet are using the same boat including the oldest man in the race who is now over 900 miles ahead of his nearest competitor. I don't know if there are waypoints that restrict how far south these boats can go but my guess is that the only way someone is going to catch him, if his boat holds out, is by going farther south.

  2. #92
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    Default Re: Golden Globe Race

    Quote Originally Posted by Seven Spades View Post
    . . . my guess is that the only way someone is going to catch him, . . . , is by going farther south.
    There are a number of waypoints which prevent this.

  3. #93
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    Quote Originally Posted by Motor_Sailor View Post
    There are a number of waypoints which prevent this.
    In the longitudes where they are now, adjacent to South Africa, the limit imposed by the GGR people is 44 South Latitude. Further east in the Southern Ocean, that limit becomes 42 South Latitude. This is imposed due to the assessed risk of encounters with icebergs and, perhaps more dangerous, much smaller pieces of broken-off ice which can still knock a great big 'ole in one's front end.

    Jean-Luc Van Den Heede, the leader by quite a few country miles, has stated his intention of steering broadly along the 40 South Parallel.


    Edit:

    I should have known better to rely on memory of a conversation.
    Herezit....

    "Race Route

    The race course is an east-about circumnavigation starting and finishing in Les Sables-dOlonne, France. Competitors will sail down the Atlantic from North to South leaving:

    An inshore Canary Island mark (TBA) to starboard- a chance to interview the skippers as they sail past without stopping and for them to pass over films and letters.
    Cape of Good Hope to port
    Prince Edward Island to starboard
    Crozet Islands to starboard
    Kergulen Islands to starboard
    45S latitude to starboard. An imaginary line the entrants must not cross or face a time penalty. Race Control follows the satellite tracker.
    Cape Leeuwin to port
    To a Gate (TBA) in Storm Bay Tasmania. Entrants sail over a line and must drop sails and drift, or anchor for 90 minutes. Media, family and friends may then interview and chat without touching them and films and letters passed off the boats, but nothing goes onto the boats. Only after 90 minutes may they recross the line and continue on to Cape Horn. The clock does not stop.
    Snares Islands to starboard.
    Bounty Islands to starboard.
    Waypoint 46S, 174W to starboard. An imaginary rounding mark.
    46S latitude to starboard until east of 115W longitude. An imaginary line the entrants must not cross or face a time penalty. Race Control follows the satellite tracker.
    Cape Horn to port
    Sail up the Atlantic from South to North. Then to the Finish line (TBA)....."
    Last edited by zoidberg; 31-08-18 at 13:20.

  4. #94
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    Default Re: Golden Globe Race

    44 S in the Indian and 46 S in the Pacific


    Plus they have to stop & drift for 90 minutes Tasmania to hand over film. They also have to round an Island just off the South of New Zealand.

  5. #95
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    Quote Originally Posted by zoidberg View Post
    In the longitudes where they are now, adjacent to South Africa, the limit imposed by the GGR people is 44 South Latitude. Further east in the Southern Ocean, that limit becomes 42 South Latitude. This is imposed due to the assessed risk of encounters with icebergs and, perhaps more dangerous, much smaller pieces of broken-off ice which can still knock a great big 'ole in one's front end.
    Your memory was right. They amended the limit to 42 South because the entrants are there earlier than expected. The tracker now shows that limit between 40 E and 130E

    It's been interesting to watch the tactics. Susie was alongside Gregor and Are and not far behind Mark Slats a couple of week ago - but they tacked south and she tacked north (watching the weather fronts, I was willing her not to) with the result that she's been stuck with little wind for the last 2 weeks and Mark and Gregor are now several hundred miles in front. Admittedly, she avoided the storm that knocked Are out

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    Quote Originally Posted by Applespider View Post
    Your memory was right. They amended the limit to 42 South because the entrants are there earlier than expected. The tracker now shows that limit between 40 E and 130E

    It's been interesting to watch the tactics. Susie was alongside Gregor and Are and not far behind Mark Slats a couple of week ago - but they tacked south and she tacked north (watching the weather fronts, I was willing her not to) with the result that she's been stuck with little wind for the last 2 weeks and Mark and Gregor are now several hundred miles in front. Admittedly, she avoided the storm that knocked Are out
    Thanks for that. I now view every episode of seeming memory failure as a warning bell tolling of approaching dementia.

    I, too, have wondered about Susie's tactics..... and I'm also wondering how she's sorting out the 'lifting chainplates' problem she reported. Also, J-L looks set for another week of warm favourable beam and quartering winds to help stretch his lead.

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    Susie's Chainplates.
    The standard chainplates on a R36 are 6x32x500mm bar with 4x 10mm bolts attached to webs that are glassed into the hull and deck, very unlikely that these will have moved.
    The plates that Susie reported had lifted should not be attached to the chainplates but merely covers of 1.6mm plate with a 6x32 mm slot in, this slides over the chainplate and is masticked flat to the deck to cover a raged hole in the deck where the chainplates come through.
    Why these plates have lifted I don't know, Susie shouldn't worry too much about them , but she will.

    Plank
    Hang the Rich.

  8. #98
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    What a stupid signature.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Applespider View Post
    They amended the limit to 42 South because the entrants are there earlier than expected. The tracker now shows that limit between 40 E and 130E
    I seem unable to get 'that limit' to display on my iteration of the tracker. Could you describe what settings/button you use, to achieve that?

  10. #100
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    Default Re: Golden Globe Race

    Yes - on the toolbar at the top of the tracker, go to Overlays/Maps and click the third button that looks a little like an train interchange logo. That toggles on the waypoints and 'course'

    There are some other useful ones up there - you can toggle on wind information (4th button, windsock), amend the length of the boat tracks (5th button) or switch to a different map/Navionics view (6th button, globe).

    If you've got Windy on, a new control appears under the toolbar that lets you step ahead in the forecast (although doesn't move the boat positions).

    The control on the bottom of the tracker lets you move back and forward in the race and watch what's happened - it's best to speed it up to virtually maximum (using the slider). If you take it back to early August, you can see the real shift in dynamics in the middle of the race since then.

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