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  1. #171
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    Default Re: New Balearic Islands law effective from today.

    Portals Vells is the prime focus of the 'anti boater' brigade, there is a video on Ultima Hora (local online newspaper) purporting to show that it is grossly overcrowded with boats (although on the video there were less yachts than usual) & they have set up an 'information kiosk' on the beach about Posedonia etc. There is an agenda to try to stop boats anchoring in the bay. A few weeks ago there were 2 Red Cross kayaks checking every boat anchors & moving some, not sure what a charitable organisation was doing actioning something that is not part of their remit !

    It has almost become a religous cult & part of the 'leftist' political diversion tactic from the real issues, there is a real sense from the activists that big boats are not welcome, which contradicts how hard the tourist businesses are trying to encourage visitors. It's not about Posedonia, it's about the clash of 'have & have nots'... who have the votes?

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    Default Re: New Balearic Islands law effective from today.

    Quote Originally Posted by pan View Post
    Portals Vells is the prime focus of the 'anti boater' brigade, there is a video on Ultima Hora (local online newspaper) purporting to show that it is grossly overcrowded with boats (although on the video there were less yachts than usual) & they have set up an 'information kiosk' on the beach about Posedonia etc. There is an agenda to try to stop boats anchoring in the bay. A few weeks ago there were 2 Red Cross kayaks checking every boat anchors & moving some, not sure what a charitable organisation was doing actioning something that is not part of their remit !

    It has almost become a religous cult & part of the 'leftist' political diversion tactic from the real issues, there is a real sense from the activists that big boats are not welcome, which contradicts how hard the tourist businesses are trying to encourage visitors. It's not about Posedonia, it's about the clash of 'have & have nots'... who have the votes?
    That explains a lot - and this present Posedonia issue.

    A couple of years ago, we stopped in Vells overnight.
    We have done it often - it isn't the best of calas but often comfortable.
    On that occasion, we chose a spot near the edge and tied back.
    It is a bit anti social with lots of other boats swinging whilst we weren't but we didn't seems to be getting in the way.
    A small Spanish yachtie saw us and said that they had been "eyeing up" that idea so decided to take our lead and do the same.

    Here is a pic:-



    Early afternoon, we were approached by someone on the shore shouting that it is illegal to tie back to the shore.
    We were confused but our (now Spanish yachtie friends) defended us against the rude comments from the shore.
    The person on the shore said that he was going to phone the police so I rigged a kedge anchor at the shore line so that we weren't technically attached to the shore.
    Indeed, an official boat did arrive and there was an argument between the Spanish yacht and the officials.

    Our Spanish friends continued to hold their ground.
    But then the huge "trip boat" arrived and tied back to his usual place (you can see the landing pads on the shore in the pic above).
    The trip boat takes (literally) hundreds of visitors from Palma to their restaurant on the beach.
    Our Spanish yachtie friend was to our starboard and got entirely caught up in the trip boat - huge mess of anchors and ropes caught under the trip boat.
    To ease the situation, we released our kedge and did the same as the rest of the boats in the bay.
    Actually, the trip boat was very humble - they knew that they had caused the problems so they sent out bowls of paella to all those boats affected.

    In the evening, I reset our lines ashore and we had a very comfortable night - the pic was taken early in the morning when fewer boats around.

    We didn't stay another night.

    I put the incident down to the trip boat needing to continue his business but it seems that there are people out there with different ideas.
    Last edited by Hurricane; 02-08-19 at 07:44.

  3. #173
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hurricane View Post
    That explains a lot - and this present Posedonia issue.

    A couple of years ago, we stopped on Vells overnight.
    We have done it often - it isn't the best of calas but often comfortable.
    On that occasion, we chose a spot near the edge and tied back.
    It is a bit anti social with lots of other boats swinging whilst we weren't but we didn't seems to be getting in the way.
    A small Spanish yachtie saw us and said that they had been "eyeing up" that idea so decided to take our lead and do the same.

    Here is a pic:-



    Early afternoon, we were approached by someone on the shore shouting that it is illegal to tie back to the shore.
    We were confused but our (now Spanish yachtie friends) defended us against the rude comments from the shore.
    The person on the shore said that he was going to phone the police so I rigged a kedge anchor at the shore line so that we weren't technically attached to the shore.
    Indeed, an official boat did arrive and there was an argument between the Spanish yacht and the officials.

    Our Spanish friends continued to hold their ground.
    But then the huge "trip boat" arrived and tied back to his usual place (you can see the landing pads on the shore in the pic above).
    The trip boat takes (literally) hundreds of visitors from Palm to their restaurant on the beach.
    Our Spanish yachtie friend was to our starboard and got entirely caught up in the trip boat - huge mess of anchors and ropes caught under the trip boat.
    To ease the situation, we released our kedge and did the same as the rest of the boats in the bay.
    Actually, the trip boat was very humble - they knew that they had caused the problems so they sent out bowls of paella to all those boats affected.

    In the evening, I reset our lines ashore and we had a very comfortable night - the pic was taken early in the morning when fewer boats around.

    We didn't stay another night.

    I put the incident down to the trip boat needing to continue his business but it seems that there are people out there with different ideas.
    Ooh yes you're in prime trip boat mooring territory there! We have learned where those enormous day trip catamarans like to deposit their passengers and avoid anchoring in those areas - it's the same in Cala Mondrago.....they honk their horns and insist any yachts in the way move to allow them to pass. Not easy when you're anchor is down and in a packed Cala.....

  4. #174
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    Default Re: New Balearic Islands law effective from today.

    Tying back to the land/using a kedge Anchor in a bay as busy as portals vells is a bit selfish/antisocial as you do end up taking a significant amount of sea space because you don't swing with the other boats.

    But in your case you were right next to where the trip boats do the same thing, so everyone would've been avoiding being in that area anyway because of the trip boats coming and going. I don't Anchor anywhere near that bit of sea because of the trip boats.

  5. #175
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    Default Re: New Balearic Islands law effective from today.

    According to the leaflet handed out by the marina office, the whole bay outside Cala DOr marina is now a red zone with anchoring totally banned but when we were out there in a couple of weeks ago there were a number of boats of all sizes anchored in both Cala Gran & Cala DOr. Think we saw a vigilante RIB one day in Mondrago but other than that no real evidence of anything different.

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    Default Re: New Balearic Islands law effective from today.

    In Cala Dor now. Not seen this. Cala gran has some sand. Today windy and a pita as most places you cant go

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    Default Re: New Balearic Islands law effective from today.

    At 26ft we can still get to most places 😊. Apparently despite the sand Cala Gran is officially designated a no anchor zone, according to the official leaflet at least.

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    Default Re: New Balearic Islands law effective from today.

    Quote Originally Posted by MedDreamer View Post
    At 26ft we can still get to most places ��. Apparently despite the sand Cala Gran is officially designated a no anchor zone, according to the official leaflet at least.
    What official leaflet is that?

  9. #179
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    Default Re: New Balearic Islands law effective from today.

    This one, although I think this one may be outdated now as I cant see Cala DOr on it.

    https://media.superyachtnews.com/upl...rafia-2018.pdf

    Issued by the Balearic government, I think most marinas will have copies.
    Last edited by MedDreamer; 03-08-19 at 07:41.

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    Default Re: New Balearic Islands law effective from today.

    Quote Originally Posted by jrudge View Post
    In Cala Dor now. Not seen this. Cala gran has some sand. Today windy and a pita as most places you can’t go
    Whitelighter is on his way.
    We had a discussion on the weather last night.
    Our recommendation was to arrive at Dragonera no earlier than 10:00 this morning to miss the bigger swell.
    It is an improving situation anyway.
    We saw him and family in the bar last night - kids fed - eating late.
    We reckoned that it would be a dark crossing - the most dangerous navigation bit would be the pots her around SC and the long fishing line markers off Mallorca.
    But he should have been approaching Mallorca with some early daylight.

    I think his plan is to go straight to Cabrerra.
    Arrival sometime this afternoon.
    The forecast shows that it should be sheltered in Cabrerra.

    He is going to text me when he arrives safe and sound.

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