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  1. #21
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    Default Re: Classic GRP Yachts; this is mine, where is yours?

    Quote Originally Posted by CAPTAIN FANTASTIC View Post
    Production of boats using fibreglass technology has been around since the 60''s. Nowadays, many of these boats are considered as classic designs with classic appearance. This is my Macwester sloop 31ft built in 1971 and still going strong.Attachment 73989Attachment 73990
    Sybaris 1 April 2017.JPG

    A modern classic and the best of the Feelings.... IMHO.

    A 1983 Feeling 920 which I have owned since 1987.
    Last edited by Sybarite; 02-11-18 at 20:53.

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    A boat to admire as you row to shore, you might reconise her Mr Fantastic...

    I was talking to your wife the other week as she was painting antifoul on a certain Macwester that may be fore sale? I'm sure someone will snap her up.
    Tom, Sundance
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    Default Re: Classic GRP Yachts; this is mine, where is yours?

    Quote Originally Posted by Yellow Ballad View Post


    A boat to admire as you row to shore, you might reconise her Mr Fantastic...

    I was talking to your wife the other week as she was painting antifoul on a certain Macwester that may be fore sale? I'm sure someone will snap her up.
    The Ballad is a beautiful yacht and a classic. My wife has been the antifouling expert for the last 12 years!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fredrussell View Post
    So basically are we saying any boat built before, say, 1980 is a classic? .
    Fundamental question that everybody has chosen to ignore so far.
    It can’t just be a question of age, there must be more to it.
    Let me try to suggest a few aspects:
    - typical of its era, a good example of what was considered a good, seaworthy vessel, well built using the materials and techniques available at the time
    - belonging to a period in the past, otherwise it is not possible to judge what is typical of that period
    - to many, Classic will have overtones of elegance, beauty and desirability, hence the distinction betwee typical and classic

    Of course, this is opening a can of worms, for who is going to judge that boat A is just typical, whereas boat B is a ‘true classic’?

    As far as I am concerned, a Rival 34 is a true plastic classic

    Last edited by westhinder; 03-11-18 at 01:30.

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    Quote Originally Posted by westhinder View Post
    Fundamental question that everybody has chosen to ignore so far.
    It can’t just be a question of age, there must be more to it.
    Let me try to suggest a few aspects:
    - typical of its era, a good example of what was considered a good, seaworthy vessel, well built using the materials and techniques available at the time
    - belonging to a period in the past, otherwise it is not possible to judge what is typical of that period
    - to many, Classic will have overtones of elegance, beauty and desirability, hence the distinction betwee typical and classic

    Of course, this is opening a can of worms, for who is going to judge that boat A is just typical, whereas boat B is a ‘true classic’?

    As far as I am concerned, a Rival 34 is a true plastic classic

    The Rival 34 ia a yacht with a big pedigree

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    Default Re: Classic GRP Yachts; this is mine, where is yours?

    Quote Originally Posted by westhinder View Post
    ...It can’t just be a question of age, there must be more to it.
    This is indeed what I was getting at.

    There was a thread on here a year or two ago that attempted to compile a list of 'true classic' plastic boats. It soon descended into everyone adding their current MAB or a design they had a misty-eyed regard for for any number of reasons.

    I reckon the only true guide is calculate an average selling price (and NOT asking price!) of the last ten examples sold of a design and work out some sort of formula involving the original price of said design, versus the number of years since its introduction, to give you a figure that can be compared to other designs.

    Contessa 32s currently sell for a good deal more than similarly well presented Rival 34s, yet few would consider the former to be a vastly superior boat. Both are easy on the eye, well made and good seaworthy boats, yet one usually costs a lot more.

    And yes, I'm a cold hearted philistine and almost certainly should have been an accountant! But surely not every 50 year old floating pile of osmosis (FPO) is a classic?
    Last edited by fredrussell; 03-11-18 at 08:51.

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    I withdraw my Kingfisher. Sturdy, seaworthy & typical of its time. But not even the fondest owner could call her elegant.
    Thank you for the pictures, and keep them coming!

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    "Classic" is very subjective and therefore is down to an individual to declare what yacht he feels should be a classic and an absolute personal preference.

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    I had the good luck to moor next door to my old boat this summer, here we are, two for one:



    Marieholm IF Boat in the foreground, which I had for ten years - surely the prettiest of GRP small boats?

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    Default Re: Classic GRP Yachts; this is mine, where is yours?

    Quote Originally Posted by jant View Post
    my 1972 nantucket clipper.....

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