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  1. #81
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    Default Re: Good Value Boat heaters

    This thread is growing!

    I buy all sorts of stuff from China including big still like automatic pool covers, containers of furniture etc. In general I have no issues with it. There are a few things that I would not buy and a hydrocarbon consuming heater is one of them - to me the risk of fire or CO on an unknown device is simply not worth it. The other ( in a boat context) would be a battery charger. I just replaced one and went for an expensive Mastervolt. Is it better? No real idea, but it is on 24//7/365 on an unattended boat so I dont really want to take the risk.

    I had an eber once and even with that I always had a window open in the cabin and rarely ran it overnight due to CO risk ( detectors then were not really available).

    The OP has a different view, and we are all entitled to our views.

  2. #82
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    Default Re: Good Value Boat heaters

    Quote Originally Posted by Portofino View Post
    Dennis can’t you see the risk of being on the receiving end of litigation from a no win no fee law outfit ? Similarly having to explain a damming insurance accessor report about your safety argument regarding lack of suitable ,acceptable , industry standard safety testing like CE marks ,as an example there could be more standards it’s not met ?

    Exceeding the speed limit say doing 34 in a 30 and getting “ done “ is a small TRIVIAL fine / speed awareness/ points or whatever , it’s a calculated risk as you have righty’s pointed out .

    The RISK here is beyond my comfort zone ,for my personal use and worst still 3rd parties on board .
    Bench testing in a shed in the garden is not enough .
    Why not get trading standards involved as a CYA - cover your arse .But I think I know what there response will be .

    Risky can’t you see that ?
    I will not live my life in the sort of world you explain above. Moreover this is generally not how it is in the UK. Also the difference between you and me is that this work is way way within my comfort zone and I honestly believe that I can and will do a far better job on my boat than most of the people available to do it. I honestly have grave concerns that people think the way you do in this regard. I see you are in France and perhaps there are big differences there..... I don't know. But in the UK there is a very big DIY Culture and there is also a Principal that 'An Englishman's Home is his Castle' and this protects the rights of a home owner to do many things in their property without any qualifications or certificates at all. I am not sure that this extends to ones boat but I suspect it does in some way.


    You speak as though what I am suggesting is unusual but in the UK it is not...………………… The world is full of risks and I prefer to deal with the real ones rather than worry about some sad mythical Lawyer charging at you on a horse some time in the future which in reality will not happen.


    The whole no win no fee thing thankfully is not that big in the UK and long may it remain so


    You must also appreciate that this is DIY work I will be doing for myself and there are very different 'laws' around this in the UK.
    Only ever look down on a person when you are bending over to help them up.

  3. #83
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    Default Re: Good Value Boat heaters

    As you say, its your choice, I hope it works out for you.

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    Default Re: Good Value Boat heaters

    Quote Originally Posted by MrB View Post
    I'm no expert on this but the way I've always thought it was "cannot legally be sold in the UK" but what's stopping you buying one in China and shipping it over? Enter Ebay.
    erm no.

    For starters they are not Chinese, they are Russian. Maybe they are made in China but so are a lot of Western goods too. Not sure if Russian merchandise is any better than ours but they won the space race so their technology arguably is. I only know Russian motorbikes and they are cheap and indestructible. (cue Ural vs BMW )

    As for imports. No, they are sold here.
    As for professional installation, they have a dealer network already in place. https://planarheaters.co.uk/authorised-dealers

    Like so many of these threads I cant get to the bottom of what is bull, what is bias and what is fact.
    Last edited by BruceK; 06-12-18 at 16:41.

  5. #85
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    Default Re: Good Value Boat heaters

    Quote Originally Posted by BruceK View Post
    erm no.

    For starters they are not Chinese, they are Russian. Maybe they are made in China but so are a lot of Western goods too. Not sure if Russian merchandise is any better than ours but they won the space race so their technology arguably is. I only know Russian motorbikes and they are cheap and indestructible.

    As for imports. No, they are sold here.
    As for professional installation, they have a dealer network already in place. https://planarheaters.co.uk/authorised-dealers

    Like so many of these threads I cant get to the bottom of what is bull, what is bias and what is fact.
    I was only using China as an example and wasn't referring to the heater in question. My reply was just my take on "cannot legally be sold in the UK"

    I get your point though.

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    Default Re: Good Value Boat heaters

    Apparently they were exhibiting at SIBS this year. Not a bad gig for some pirate smugglers but SIBS as we all know is going downhill anyway. Just cant quite muster the class of yesteryear.

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    Default Re: Good Value Boat heaters

    Quote Originally Posted by MrB View Post
    I was only using China as an example and wasn't referring to the heater in question. My reply was just my take on "cannot legally be sold in the UK"

    I get your point though.
    Sorry I answered to you as a continuation but actually it was to the board as a whole. So much gumf to wade through I am now independently researching them

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    Default Re: Good Value Boat heaters

    Quote Originally Posted by oldgit View Post
    Existing Eber/Web suppliers have already installed Planar heaters.
    These heaters are Chinese copies of a Planar and not the genuine thing.

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    Default Re: Good Value Boat heaters

    Aren't we conflating two things here...

    1) Branded Planar heaters which may or may not be CE Marked.
    2) Non branded Chinese heaters which almost certainly aren't CE Marked.

  10. #90
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    Default Re: Good Value Boat heaters

    Quote Originally Posted by Boat2016 View Post
    These heaters are Chinese copies of a Planar and not the genuine thing.
    Better have a real close look at your Eber/Web. Just in case you know. Those Chinese can knock anything off. Build a wall, build it quick

    And I am not joking. They were plagued by it

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