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  1. #1
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    Default Lessons will be learned

    There will be much to extract from the current GGR and the tribulations of its skippers.

    What might some of those lessons be, and are we likely to learn them?

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    Default Re: Lessons will be learned

    I am not really knowledgable to comment; but I would be interested if the experts consider that the strict rules on boat size and design, and equipment carried, actually caused any mishaps.

    (Not looking to apportion blame, to anybody: the rules were clearly stated.. tho I remember the phrase "gratuitously luddite" being used..)
    I wonder if the same race rules would be thought responsible to repeat, if a second or even regular event is contemplated?

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    Default Re: Lessons will be learned

    I've just finished re-reading Dr David Lewis' 'The Ship Would Not Travel Due West', which is his very lucid account of his participation in the first Singlehanded Transatlantic Race in 1960 - and back again - in his much smaller wooden 'Cardinal Vertue'. There were gales and storms aplenty, broken gear and chafed-through ropes, and lessons to ponder.

    I'm no expert. The individuals who do this as solo skippers are, and should be heeded - but it seems clear to me that a minimum of rules is sought. These individuals know, from their own and others' accumulated experience, what is required. They also know, as do I, that a proliferation of rules, regulations and inspections does very little to make deep-water sailing 'safe'. It does, however, encourage a number of inexperienced individuals to tackle big offshore passages in the mistaken belief that 'the committee' has made the necessary decisions and that these tyros need only carry the kit listed, to 'make it through the night'. Wrong.....!

    Lewis warns of the problem of barnacle infestation in the first few pages. He and others came close to running out of drinking water. He rations matches 'cos he didn't bring enough. His foul weather clothing is inadequate. The bridle for his drogue comes close to pulling the transom off. Stainless runners chafe through due to inadequate leads, threatening his mast. There are many other examples in this and the other 'classic' accounts to inform the would-be participant of 'lessons learned'.

    It is not yet known what failed in 'DHL Starlight's Jordan Series Drogue, but that lead to the loss of the vessel. Certainly there is something important to glean from that, but the boat itself was in superior condition and fit, while SG herself quite clearly demonstrated a superior degree of seamanship.

    It's my view that an absolute minimum of rules - solely to ensure level racing - is desirable. That puts the obligation for safety onto the participants and not the Race Committee..... and that means the participants have to learn and decide on what's needed.

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    Default Re: Lessons will be learned

    I'm dimly aware that question are being asked, as the GGR 'demolition derby' continues, of the choices made regarding self-steering gear... and also that some criticisms have been levied at the Wind Pilot gear and at Peter Foerthmann, the company's owner.

    Now, I have no commercial involvement. I don't own one. But there are those who do, and - after thousands of ocean miles - continue to endorse and praise the things.
    One example is Roger Taylor, in his brief account of his 3000nm summer voyage in Ming Ming II here at about minute 3:10.

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    Default Re: Lessons will be learned

    Quote Originally Posted by zoidberg View Post
    I'm dimly aware that question are being asked, as the GGR 'demolition derby' continues, of the choices made regarding self-steering gear... and also that some criticisms have been levied at the Wind Pilot gear and at Peter Foerthmann, the company's owner.

    Now, I have no commercial involvement. I don't own one. But there are those who do, and - after thousands of ocean miles - continue to endorse and praise the things.
    One example is Roger Taylor, in his brief account of his 3000nm summer voyage in Ming Ming II here at about minute 3:10.
    I don't understand this comment about the Windpilot. My understanding was that Susie Goodall had a Monitor and that is what shows up in the pictures of her boat.
    John Apps

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    Default Re: Lessons will be learned

    Having just finished reading Peters response to the criticisms and insinuations regarding the Windpilot. It seems to me he has done everything he can to assist in solving the problems being experienced in the GGR. It’s apparent that the main issues are from incorrect installations and understating of fine tuning. That coupled with lack of sea trails,and timely 2 way communication with Peter have led to these sailors having problems that maybe could have be avoided. When I ordered my Pacific Light from Peter this year, the communication was first class. He wanted pictures and videos to ensure I had installed correctly, and that it was performing as it should. He always responded to my emails the same day, in some cases immediately. I will continue to support the Windpilot Brand like many others.

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