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  1. #131
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    Default Re: West coast of Scotland - is it cruising friendly?

    With trees, if my neighbours tree branch overhangs my garden I can cut it off but it remains his branch. (Similarly his wife .. ).

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    Default Re: West coast of Scotland - is it cruising friendly?

    A slightly different question - how easy is it to find anchorages for a boat drawing 9ft?

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    Default Re: West coast of Scotland - is it cruising friendly?

    Quote Originally Posted by Minn View Post
    A slightly different question - how easy is it to find anchorages for a boat drawing 9ft?
    Easy, look at the Pilot Books, look at the charts, there are lots.
    "'...contradictions .... are deliberate exercises in doublethink." Orwell from 1984

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    Default Re: West coast of Scotland - is it cruising friendly?

    The fish farm problem could be easily solved.
    Do what they now do with lobsters. Rear millions in captivity for the first few weeks and then discharge them into the sea to be caught in the usual way. It would be less cruel and the salmon could demand a premium as free range.

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    Default Re: West coast of Scotland - is it cruising friendly?

    Quote Originally Posted by Minn View Post
    A slightly different question - how easy is it to find anchorages for a boat drawing 9ft?
    No problem, the ship I worked on drew about 4 metres and we went to all sorts of places.

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    Default Re: West coast of Scotland - is it cruising friendly?

    Quote Originally Posted by mainsail1 View Post
    The fish farm problem could be easily solved.
    Do what they now do with lobsters. Rear millions in captivity for the first few weeks and then discharge them into the sea to be caught in the usual way. It would be less cruel and the salmon could demand a premium as free range.
    Did you not know that they tried that on nearly every river in Scotland, fish are not easy to train. Round here many of the cages contain halibut, enormous fish that command an enormous price.

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    Default Re: West coast of Scotland - is it cruising friendly?

    Quote Originally Posted by mainsail1 View Post
    The fish farm problem could be easily solved.
    Do what they now do with lobsters. Rear millions in captivity for the first few weeks and then discharge them into the sea to be caught in the usual way. It would be less cruel and the salmon could demand a premium as free range.
    Which particular problem are you trying to solve? As has already been pointed out, fish farms used to be a problem when they were first sited in very sheltered locations. Now that they are almost all out in open water, what's the problem?

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    Default Re: West coast of Scotland - is it cruising friendly?

    Quote Originally Posted by NormanS View Post
    Which particular problem are you trying to solve? As has already been pointed out, fish farms used to be a problem when they were first sited in very sheltered locations. Now that they are almost all out in open water, what's the problem?
    There are still several, sure they are cleaning up the act, but its not all roses yet.

    Eigg has rejected (a few times) the offers from fish farms to place a pen or 2 near the island.
    At one presentation the representative was proudly touting their fact that for 1.1 tonnes of feed they got 1 tonne of fish back. Now, just what else are those fish eating and what is starving because of it.
    There is still a significant fatality rate (obviously they will try to minimise it) but that represents both waste in the feed supply chain and local pollution.
    The offers of local jobs have (at the Muck site) not actually ended up providing employment for original locals, but some that have moved in to work there. Could be good, small communities can usually benefit from growth.
    The balance of wealth created vs wealth retained at the sites is also a concern, multi-national companies making millions where the locals get thousands..

    The problem with all relatively new processes is that they are always playing catch-up to the problems that exist. For some time after they will still be tainted with an out of date brush, but the onus is on them to prove improvements.
    Just call me Dougal, Sir Dougal to you.

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    Default Re: West coast of Scotland - is it cruising friendly?

    From what I have seen over the last two seasons sailing the West Coast fish farms are alway situated in beautiful Lochs or sheltered bays.
    Have you no thought for the poor salmon, living an unnatural life of imprisonment?

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    Default Re: West coast of Scotland - is it cruising friendly?

    Quote Originally Posted by mainsail1 View Post
    From what I have seen over the last two seasons sailing the West Coast fish farms are alway situated in beautiful Lochs or sheltered bays.
    Have you no thought for the poor salmon, living an unnatural life of imprisonment?
    But did they stop you using the Loch or anchoring? So far none have for me, Lock Spelve on Mull has big mussel farms and one can still access the traditional anchorages and some others, similarly around Shuna, all the anchorages are still free. Factory farming is a requirement to feed conurbations of millions in an efficient manner.
    "'...contradictions .... are deliberate exercises in doublethink." Orwell from 1984

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