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    Default how best to sell a boat these days?

    I've sold 3 boats before now, the last in 2006. All have been private sales and all have been adverised through the yachting mags. But if I look through the little booklets that pass for YM and PBO these days, there are few private adverts. The trade has clearly gone elsewhere.

    I dont want to use a broker - the fees are ridiculous I M O. So where do I advertise nowadays? The boat in question is likely in the £50k range and its currently cardiff based.

    Is it worth setting up a website with lots of piccies or is it OK simply to compile an email to send to enquirers?
    this post is a personal opinion, and you should not base your actions on it.

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    Default Re: how best to sell a boat these days?

    You can start by sneaking in an advert on a yachting forum disguised as a question about selling a boat.

    Oh, wait a minute.........

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    Default Re: how best to sell a boat these days?

    Unfortunately, I trust private sellers as far as I can throw them...and their boat. If I buy from a dealer and it's faulty in some way (not as described) I can take it back to get it fixed (Consumer Protection Act rather than Warranty) or heck send the whole thing back and get a refund. Can't do that with private sellers. Dealers will typically (the good ones) have a look over the boat and do a survey, the fees are there to cover their costs and get them a little profit.

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    Default Re: how best to sell a boat these days?

    If it helps I am just in the process of selling my boat, a 2013 Bavaria 33 based in Greece, have used ebay and Apollo Duck. It's been on the market for three weeks and have had lots of interest and enquiries and 4 (lowish offers) off the ebay advert
    As it is not even ready for viewing until next week am quite happy with the level of interest so far
    Last edited by jordanbasset; 04-05-19 at 11:37.

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    Default Re: how best to sell a boat these days?

    Quote Originally Posted by birdseye View Post
    Is it worth setting up a website with lots of piccies or is it OK simply to compile an email to send to enquirers?
    How are the enquirers going to know to enquire? There obviously has to be some kind of initial advert.

    That advert (or other resources that people can easily and instantly access from it) has to contain enough information to get people to put your boat on their list of possibles before they'll take additional steps like emailing for more information. Different people have a different information threshold for that, but since you don't want to lose any possible buyer you need to cater to most of the range - including people who will only make contact for a boat they're already seriously, not just speculatively, considering based on information available to them by self-service. These people aren't going to contact you based on one smudgy photo and 40 words unless it's a very niche boat that they specifically want and that ad is one of only three they've seen anywhere.

    This is a long-winded way of saying that, yes, you need a website with lots of pictures. Whether that's your own dedicated site or a page on a general listing site that lets you upload a reasonable number of decent photos and some text, I don't think is important.

    The idea of a pre-prepared sales pack that you email out to people who email you and ask for it, basically casts yourself in the role of not-very-good very-high-latency webserver with a non-standard request interface. Don't do that, use an actual webserver, it's what they're for.

    Pete
    Last edited by prv; 04-05-19 at 10:25.

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    Default Re: how best to sell a boat these days?

    Quote Originally Posted by prv View Post

    The idea of a pre-prepared sales pack that you email out to people who email you and ask for it, basically casts yourself in the role of not-very-good very-high-latency webserver with a non-standard request interface.

    Pete
    Blimey, do you have to learn computer nerkspeak as well?

    I just used a broker last time.

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    Default Re: how best to sell a boat these days?

    I've always sold privately, the first one was through an ad on Autotrader which had a boat section at the time, the second was through Apollo Duck, the third was an ad on the owners' association website. In each case I insisted that the transaction was carried out using the RYA-provided form of contract.
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    Default Re: how best to sell a boat these days?

    Quote Originally Posted by Luminescent View Post
    Unfortunately, I trust private sellers as far as I can throw them...and their boat. If I buy from a dealer and it's faulty in some way (not as described) I can take it back to get it fixed (Consumer Protection Act rather than Warranty) or heck send the whole thing back and get a refund. Can't do that with private sellers. Dealers will typically (the good ones) have a look over the boat and do a survey, the fees are there to cover their costs and get them a little profit.
    I don’t think there are many dealers selling second-hand yachts, though. Seems to be slightly more common in the motorboat world, but still the vast majority of professionals will be brokers acting for private sellers, not dealers selling on their own account.

    Pete

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    Default Re: how best to sell a boat these days?

    That's gonna screw me up then! I'll figure something out I'm sure.

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    Default Re: how best to sell a boat these days?

    Quote Originally Posted by Luminescent View Post
    Unfortunately, I trust private sellers as far as I can throw them...and their boat. If I buy from a dealer and it's faulty in some way (not as described) I can take it back to get it fixed (Consumer Protection Act rather than Warranty) or heck send the whole thing back and get a refund. Can't do that with private sellers. Dealers will typically (the good ones) have a look over the boat and do a survey, the fees are there to cover their costs and get them a little profit.
    I think you are misunderstanding the legal position. If you buy from a dealer then you are right, but the dealer actually owns the boat ie he has taken it in in part exchange or its a new boat. Most second hand boats are sold through a broker acting as the agent of the seller so you are buying privately but the transaction is organised by the broker. You can only go back legally if the seller ( ie the owner) has made misrepresentations as to the condition etc of the boat via the broker. CPA doesnt apply. Your contract is with the seller himself.

    I might be wrong but I dont think I am.
    this post is a personal opinion, and you should not base your actions on it.

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