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  1. #21
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    Default Re: WIndward Boat Keeps Clear?

    Headsail position is irrelevant.

    Starboard boat is stand on vessel.

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    I agree with the assertion that the tide makes no difference; it just changes the frame of reference. However, regardless of the collision rules there are certain courtesies between sailing craft that it makes sense to follow. Firstly, a boat sailing free should try to avoid inconveniencing a boat tacking. Secondly, a stand-on boat should avoid causing a boat broad-reaching or running having to gybe. Not having been there, it is not possible to say which of these applies in your case. I do hope you survive your viral infestation in time to go sailing again.
    Far away is near at hand in images of elsewhere

  3. #23
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    Default Re: WIndward Boat Keeps Clear?

    Quote Originally Posted by matt1 View Post
    This is fun...and continuing the theme....who gives way in this situation and does the headsail in Posn A make any difference?
    starboard/port tack situation, boat 2 should keep out of the way
    Rule 12 (a) (i)
    no
    rule 12 (b)
    Last edited by knuterikt; 16-05-19 at 16:37.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnalison View Post
    I agree with the assertion that the tide makes no difference; it just changes the frame of reference. However, regardless of the collision rules there are certain courtesies between sailing craft that it makes sense to follow. Firstly, a boat sailing free should try to avoid inconveniencing a boat tacking. Secondly, a stand-on boat should avoid causing a boat broad-reaching or running having to gybe. Not having been there, it is not possible to say which of these applies in your case. I do hope you survive your viral infestation in time to go sailing again.
    I can understand, and agree with, this post.

  5. #25
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    Default Re: WIndward Boat Keeps Clear?

    Quote Originally Posted by johnalison View Post
    I agree with the assertion that the tide makes no difference; it just changes the frame of reference. However, regardless of the collision rules there are certain courtesies between sailing craft that it makes sense to follow. Firstly, a boat sailing free should try to avoid inconveniencing a boat tacking. Secondly, a stand-on boat should avoid causing a boat broad-reaching or running having to gybe. Not having been there, it is not possible to say which of these applies in your case. I do hope you survive your viral infestation in time to go sailing again.
    where do I find these courtesy rules you have invented?

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    Default Re: WIndward Boat Keeps Clear?

    Quote Originally Posted by knuterikt View Post
    where do I find these courtesy rules you have invented?
    Not in Norway, it seems. The first of them is just a gloss on the Rules and the second is good seamanship.

  7. #27
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    Default Re: WIndward Boat Keeps Clear?

    Quote Originally Posted by knuterikt View Post
    where do I find these courtesy rules you have invented?
    Not invented - very common in the cruising world. Based on the principle of boat with least bother avoids a collision situation developing with an exaggerated move to show what they are doing. If that doesn’t happen then the collision situation has happened and proper rules apply. Just a bit rude if the aim is low effort sailing with no competitive element.

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    Default Re: WIndward Boat Keeps Clear?

    Quote Originally Posted by RupertW View Post
    Not invented - very common in the cruising world. Based on the principle of boat with least bother avoids a collision situation developing with an exaggerated move to show what they are doing. If that doesn’t happen then the collision situation has happened and proper rules apply. Just a bit rude if the aim is low effort sailing with no competitive element.
    Exactly.

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    Default Re: WIndward Boat Keeps Clear?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinnacle View Post
    Headsail position is irrelevant.

    Starboard boat is stand on vessel.
    Yup, boom decides no boom boom.

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    Default Re: WIndward Boat Keeps Clear?

    Quote Originally Posted by dolabriform View Post
    I had to read that 3 times before I understood... I'm definitely not well
    Increase the dosage.....

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