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  1. #31
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    Default Re: Hampton Court Place Moorings BEWARE

    What makes you so sure they haven't been?

  2. #32
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    Default Re: Hampton Court Place Moorings BEWARE

    Quote Originally Posted by Mushroom2 View Post
    Not wishing to criticise (but I seem to be); isn't this a matter that the TMBA should be getting involved with?
    Are you a member? If not, why not join and at least contribute to it.

    Although the TMBA exists to represent the views of its members and to some extent all boaters - it is not an organisation that runs on thin air, nor without 'bums on seats'

  3. #33
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    Default Re: Hampton Court Place Moorings BEWARE

    I am a member but (so far) have not been affected by this problem. The system of using these moorings seems to be extremely confusing and I thought an approach by a recognised body might get some clarification.

  4. #34
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    Default Re: Hampton Court Place Moorings BEWARE

    Latest from K&A community boating website:

    There will be a public meeting to discuss the activities of District Enforcement in Reading on Tuesday 21st May 2019 at 7pm at*The Jolly Anglers, Kennetside, Reading. Bring your District Enforcement issues.

    Signs have been put up on the River Thames and on Environment Agency waters at the mouth of the River Kennet around Reading over the past two years by District Enforcement (DE) claiming to act for Reading Borough Council. Chestnut Walk is now a no-go area for boaters. Boaters at Tescos moorings have been systematically harassed. Intimidating signs have recently appeared at Blakes Wharf (Chocolate Island).

    In the recent case bought by DE against eight boaters DE was ordered to prove that it actually had authority to bring the case and on 1st May 2019 the case was struck out because DE failed to prove that it had any authority at all.

    Come to the meeting to discuss the outrageous behaviour of DE.

    The activities of District Enforcement include:

    Claims that it can charge for mooring when in fact Section 79 of the Thames Conservancy Act 1932 (Public Right of Navigation) permits mooring (without charge)

    Claims that it can seize boats which do not pay when in fact it MUST engage in due process (Article 6 of the European Convention on Human Rights) by issuing a claim form in the court, and serve the claim form using the procedure specified in Part 55 of the Civil Procedure Rules which means the documents must be served by being attached to the boat service on the boat; the boater has a right to defend against the claim.

    Claims that it can pursue for unpaid debt of the mooring fee when in fact there is no right to charge this fee at all.

    Claims that it can prevent mooring at some locations when in fact the PRN allows mooring at all locations (and riparians know this when they take title to riparian land) for a reasonable time and in any event in a navigation emergency.

    Bully-boy tactics patrolling the towpaths, intimidating and harassing boaters when in fact DE as the agent of Reading Borough Council must respect the homes of Bargee Travellers (Article 8 of the European Convention on Human Rights).

    Boarding boats even though the Master of a vessel holds sovereign authority on the boat and can arrest someone who boards and/or does not leave immediately on the Master’s order.

    Seeking to enforce against boaters on the Wokingham side of Kennetmouth when in fact Wokingham Borough Council has informed the NBTA that it has not engaged the services of DE at all.

    So what to do? Come and discuss the next steps of action against DE….

    Reading Borough Council, a Labour administration (Labour holds 30 of the 46 seats), instructed DE in 2017 to engage in towpath enforcement. Even though the Labour Party manifesto states “We will end … discrimination against Gypsy, Roma and Traveller communities, and protect the right to lead a nomadic way of life” (page 112), Reading Borough Council has consistently persecuted itinerant live-aboard boaters the Reading area for many years. In June 2009 the Council effectively purged Reading of Bargee Travellers although many members of the Bargee Traveller community have returned. The population of Bargee Travellers in Reading is over 50. In the Accommodation Needs Assessment conducted by Reading Borough Council in 2017, the Council claimed that there were fewer than 11 Bargee Travellers in Reading while simultaneously seeking to evict over 20 boaters from the Tescos moorings alone.
    Last edited by Old Crusty; 21-05-19 at 15:17.
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  5. #35
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    Default Re: Hampton Court Place Moorings BEWARE

    "...when in fact the PRN allows mooring at all locations (and riparians know this when they take title to riparian land) for a reasonable time and in any event in a navigation emergency."


    I think this is incorrect. Riparian land owners are well looked after for obvious reasons.

  6. #36
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    Default Re: Hampton Court Place Moorings BEWARE

    Unfortunately I was unable to attend the meeting at the anglers Reading last night I would love to know what the consensus of opinion was and was anything resolved

  7. #37
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    Default Re: Hampton Court Place Moorings BEWARE

    EA and DE now ignoring Emails, EA switchboard operator said there is nobody available.

    This is not going to be good for them, I'm really annoyed now....

  8. #38
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    Default Re: Hampton Court Place Moorings BEWARE

    Interesting?

    One of District Enforcements directors, Danylo Pawlo was a director of the River Thames Alliance company.

    You know, the one 'Mr Brown Envelope' Michael Shefras' ex ATYC is still a director of

  9. #39
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    Default Re: Hampton Court Place Moorings BEWARE

    Quote Originally Posted by TrueBlue View Post
    Are you a member? If not, why not join and at least contribute to it.

    Although the TMBA exists to represent the views of its members and to some extent all boaters - it is not an organisation that runs on thin air, nor without 'bums on seats'
    I'm in the ATYC. They'll be all over this like a fly on sh!t. NOT

  10. #40
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    Default Re: Hampton Court Place Moorings BEWARE

    The EA have spoken to me, pending an email.

    The lady suggested they DID give DE my personal details. She's just trying to find out what law enabled her to do so before she writes.

    The EA GDPR statement suggests otherwise, so she may be clutching at straws....

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