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  1. #31
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    Port Azzurro brings back some nice memories Vic, we took a bus up into a mountain village, Capoliveri, and had some of the best squid ink pasta I've ever had, and the early aperitivi drinks in the local bars brought so many nibbles, dinner was not necessary as we were so full. Enjoy.

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    And another port , portoferraio is the main ferry port on Elba , very large bay with different place where you can anchor ,
    we anchored with just 1.9 under us just to be close for getting off on land .
    But the bay is so big you could anchor hundreds of boat in different places .
    Lots of large super markets , fuel just down the road from a garage , chandlers and every thing you would expect from a big town .
    The town harbour is a bit of a dinghy ride for us but for fast rib we seen them reach the town within mins .
    The Down side , there ferries coming and going all the time, and if you want a flat anchorage this spot we in may not be idea because of the ferries wash ,
    Best option would be anchor here. Do what you want to do on land and move to one of the other anchorage around the bay , which is what we probably do some time to day.
    Just to add Elba a very large islands and there tons of bay you can anchor in , which every the weather coming from .
    Now we debating where to go next, back to the main land and head for Pisa up the river Arno or give it a miss and sail to Corsica or Sardinia .
    We need very flat seas for us to enter Arno , no swell as depths are low for us .
    So some planning needed .
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    Quote Originally Posted by sailaboutvic View Post
    And another port , portoferraio is the main ferry port on Elba , very large bay with different place where you can anchor ,
    we anchored with just 1.9 under us just to be close for getting off on land .
    But the bay is so big you could anchor hundreds of boat in different places .
    Lots of large super markets , fuel just down the road from a garage , chandlers and every thing you would expect from a big town .
    The town harbour is a bit of a dinghy ride for us but for fast rib we seen them reach the town within mins .
    The Down side , there ferries coming and going all the time, and if you want a flat anchorage this spot we in may not be idea because of the ferries wash ,
    Best option would be anchor here. Do what you want to do on land and move to one of the other anchorage around the bay , which is what we probably do some time to day.
    Just to add Elba a very large islands and there tons of bay you can anchor in , which every the weather coming from .
    Now we debating where to go next, back to the main land and head for Pisa up the river Arno or give it a miss and sail to Corsica or Sardinia .
    We need very flat seas for us to enter Arno , no swell as depths are low for us .
    So some planning needed .
    We enjoyed several long stops there. Even managed free Wifi. Have you found the direct shortcut to the Coop supermarket? It's better than the one in town.

    The town quay has an odd business model. Charge 120 euro to stay overnight but OK to come in early, fill up with water for 5 euro and stay all day. We spoke to several people who'd been in all day, lunch out, water, poss. even power and out at 5 o'clock. We felt guilty having a quick walk around after filling up. Pretty certain boats were going around in afternoon before deciding it was full and then anchoring. Marina almost empty overnight on some days.

    Still in Preveza, accosted by a lady offering to sort out our DEKPA. I should have asked for a price instead of looking very confused and saying we'd do it ourselves on way out of Greece. Why would you pay someone to sort out stamping a DEKPA? I wonder if this is fallout from people being paid to sort out TEPAI. A couple of people told us they'd found very helpful "agents" (for a price ).

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    Yes thanks Mike we found the co op , we ask marine services if we could leave the dinghy at there quay and they where very helpful , even taken our rubbish of us and offering us a ride into town as he was on his way to town ,
    It save us the long dinghy ride to the harbour .
    Co Op just across the road to them .
    A good day out in all followed by a big shop at the Co Op

    We now anchored on the other side of the bay , I can't believe how empty the anchorages are , the most we had was the other night while anchored in Porto Azzurro but then it was the week end .
    We ended up with about 30 boats if you add up all the little motor rib out for one night .
    Maybe they all gone to Greece ,
    I must not joke some are getting up set with any remakes I make about Greece
    Any way we moved to much better anchorage in Cala Concia , very clean blue water and some nice walks .
    There a small hotel which seen to took over the beach with deck chairs although if there was 15 couple on the beach that be one too many .
    They have a small pontoon where you can leave the dinghy , useful .
    Enclose photo of our crowed anchorages to night , all of two boats and us .
    Enjoy the rest of your time in Greece , and mind those mossy. .
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    River Arno
    We crossed the bar with 1.7 under us , that's 3.4 depth although we did have a 10cm rise as we was on the top of the tide .
    We ended up one mile up river at Arnovecchio yard , €35 a night including water and power , not bad for Mid June . Nicole speaks very good English he can haul out boats with his travel lift . The cost is around €170 .
    The yard like all the other is in country side so don't expect any shops , but there a bus stop just out side and €2 will get you to Pisa , this is a Great spot the banks on the other side of the river is all greenery horses and deers come down to swim and drink the fresh water .
    I would recommend this yard , it has a small shower but as most just park and go it's shouldn't be a problem . You can live on board while on the hard but you will have to take out a fire insurance and after a short stay he would charge for power over the winter .
    It's a reminder of my early days on the east coast sailing up the rivers .
    there are many yards with stage mooring , the current runs about a knot but get less as you go up .
    If your passing its well worth a visit ,
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    Le Speza
    We anchored Le Grazie , you can berth into the wall free on the south east corner of the bay in the town ,there also small pontoon , which I wouldn't recommend as it jumps all over the places , the bay is a good size , it big enough to taken a large amount of boats , weekend it is almost packed (June) but as many other bays in Italy come the evening many go back to home port .
    The Bay very well protected from most parts
    Mud and good holding .
    Boat yard come marina with a travel lift , super market big enough for most stuff , Busses to Le Speza , few bars and restaurants.
    Swimmers beware small boats do speed through, although usually followed by shout for other boats to slow down .
    All in all a nice town .
    After the week end rush it's very quiet here now .
    If you into classic yacht Le Grazie is the place to come , with a good selection moored on the town quay , all looking fantastic .

    A 14 mins sail took us to and anchorage on the east side of Almaria a small island just south of the breakmwater , very clear water a great night stop or as we used it a lunch and swim stop before return to Le Graize.
    We also had a lunch stop north of Portovenere and waiting for the wind to pick up to sail on .
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    Porto Di Ponente Monterosso
    We now some 440 miles as the crow flys down the west coast .
    Five towns in one , its the most crowed beachs we seen so far , I guess with a train line running into this holiday town it's going to be crowed .
    Nice sand anchorages , make sure you keep out from the swimming buoys , there. a small break in the rocks on the north west corner great to leave the dinghy .
    Some nice walks from one town to the other , tunnels have been cut into the rock to make a walk away plus for cars to use , train station bang in the town .
    Supermarket , Bakery and other stores plus one after the other ice cream Parlours.


    Late start to day , some jobs needed doing , our sail all of 4 miles in a straight line took us four hours and added another 7 miles , we give up in the end and anchored in this bay,
    Bonassola ,
    no other boats in sights only about a few hundred sun bathing.
    W to Se protection on sand , on shore facilities unknown , as it too hot to go yet , swim and a few beers is a much better option ,once the beach empty and it gets cooler it be a better time to explore .
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    You are now within striking distance of Camogli. Don't miss it, some of the most striking buildings you will see anywhere.
    Enjoying your accounts, thanks for them.
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    You are now within striking distance of Camogli. Don't miss it, some of the most striking buildings you will see anywhere.
    Enjoying your accounts, thanks for them.
    If to day is anything to go by Vyv we might make it by the end of the summer .
    Actually it was quite a nice day , we had six anchorage marked within 12 miles we could choose from.
    bobbing along at 2 kts tacking back and fro was ok , much cooler then anchored, for once we could have lunch without needed one hand to stop everything taken off.

    Any way going back to where I left off in my posting .
    A trip a shore at 20.30 was timed right , in between the swimming buoys there a lane for a local boat hire , we left our dinghy there , the guy was helpful he came out of his office to help us take in up on the beach .

    We expected the town to be packed after what we sew on the beach , but the town was delightful, most of the people had gone , the restaurant although quite a lot sat just a few in each one , menu prices where around € 14 for meat meal ,a salad was €5 , not over expensive I suppose once you add your wine in you looking at €20 a head .
    But what really makes these Italian town is the back street , with arch balconies plants and flower hanging down from them , the stone and brick work looking old but not looking as if they about to fall down , even the clothes hanging from some windows give it that added charms .
    And What could be better then looking through a gap to see a whole bay with just one boat sitting on a flat sea .

    We been really lucky so far with our anchorages , other the. The weekend they been empty and what's happen to the loud beach music , playing to the early hours of the morning , only once have we really had a problem with music .
    Now I said all that I bet things will change and we be kept up with bang bang bang and anchorages where you can swing a cat .
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    Nice Vic.
    But what can a sailor do in bad weather? I see that all the anchorages are open to W, SW...

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