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  1. #1
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    Default Have you used this type of tools?

    Are they useful, or just more useless steel ? The idea seems interesting.

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    Default Re: Have you used this type of tools?

    Isn't the first one just an ordinary pair of waterpump pliers?

    Pete

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    Default Re: Have you used this type of tools?

    Quote Originally Posted by prv View Post
    Isn't the first one just an ordinary pair of waterpump pliers?

    Pete
    Yes, had a pair of those in my kit for years. Very useful for hanging on to something of larger diameter, like a stern gland nut. I've even used them to shift a screw on oil filter. Like any tool: very good at what it was designed for, but not much else.

    Second tool looks an interesting possible solution to rounded nuts?
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    Default Re: Have you used this type of tools?

    Quote Originally Posted by prv View Post
    Isn't the first one just an ordinary pair of waterpump pliers?

    Pete
    I certainly would not be without a pair of them - always recognising that they should not be resorted to for tightening or releasing anything important - like any adjustable spanner type of tool, they cannot be relied upon to grip squarely, distribute the load evenly and minimise damage to the item being gripped.

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    Default Re: Have you used this type of tools?

    Use the top one often - whether for wide diameter bolts or to hold something wide in place.

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    Default Re: Have you used this type of tools?

    Quote Originally Posted by prv View Post
    Isn't the first one just an ordinary pair of waterpump pliers?

    Pete
    No, it isn't. The top handle in the picture pivots which gives the jaws a tighter grip than the standard version. Knipex are top quality tools.

    I think the other item is a bit of a gimmick with limited use.

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    Default Re: Have you used this type of tools?

    Quote Originally Posted by prv View Post
    Isn't the first one just an ordinary pair of waterpump pliers?

    Pete
    First ones are Knipex, expensive but good

    They do a small pair of 6" pliers that are really handy, but over £40
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    Default Re: Have you used this type of tools?

    Quote Originally Posted by prv View Post
    Isn't the first one just an ordinary pair of waterpump pliers?
    If you look closely, you'll see that the jaws stay parallel.

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    Default Re: Have you used this type of tools?

    The second tool looks like an adjustable spanner but one with a lever which presumably takes all the slop out of the jaws which is a big problem with adjustable spanners, especially on smaller fastenings. I'm not a great fan of adjustables but that potentially looks like an improvement.

    Richard

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    Default Re: Have you used this type of tools?

    Both look like they might be similar to quite a few tools onboard in earning their keep maybe once a year, with a slightly trashed nut /bolt without trashing it more with mole grips. Though probably not as good as waterpump pliers for doing what waterpump pliers do best every morning for breakfast - cracking a few almonds and walnuts

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