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    Quote Originally Posted by geem View Post
    I understand that the average boat size in the Caribbean is 45ft. This may be a little out of date so I guess by now the average may be a little bigger.
    This would be a large boat in the UK.
    We have a 50ft which was in the Caribbean, but we now keep it in the UK. It is big but not unmanageable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobc View Post
    We have a 50ft which was in the Caribbean, but we now keep it in the UK. It is big but not unmanageable.
    When we kept our boat in Pwllheli Marina a few years ago we were the fourth largest sailing boat. In the Caribbean we were less than average��

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    We've recently moved up to 39ft. A swing mooring costs the same for us regardless of length, and she's coppercoated so hopefully that will take off some of the burden as well.
    She's a more old fashioned boat with oodles of locker space. We looked at similar sized more modern designs (well, they were from the 80s, not the 70s) and felt that the living spaces were nicer but the stowage was nowhere near as good.
    At the moment, it seems inconceivable that we will ever manage to fill all the space. But we bumped into a couple who own an identical boat and they seem to be managing. They'd moved aboard straight from their flat, without seemingly getting rid of very much. Right down to the full size upright Dyson, which is overkill for a boat but as they said, they already owned it, so why not?
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    Quote Originally Posted by beermonkey View Post
    Thanks for the answers folks, I kinda knew it was a 'how long is a piece of string' type question! It does seem that the answer will be how well laid out/LOA and handleability v cost and a healthy dose of "do I LIKE her".
    When looking at boats you'd be much better of using a healthy dose of "what DON'T I like about her". Buy a boat with your head not your heart.

    Regarding length, it depends where you plan to cruise and whether you'll be crossing oceans. I think (though I've not been there in a yacht) that in the Caribbean 40ft is likely to be small and 50ft pretty average, whilst in many places in the Med 40ft is average and 50ft is large. There are certainly many smaller places in the Med that you won't be able to get a 50ft yacht into.

    It also depends on what sort of cruising you plan to do. A 38ft boat will feel huge when cruising for a few months in the summer, but if you're living on her in the winter she'll seem tiny and cramped. If you plan to cruise the Med a stern cockpit with a sugar-scoop is ideal for the stern-to mooring here, but if you plan on crossing oceans you'll probably want a high centre cockpit.

    I hope you're not thinking of buying a big boat and using crew, and that the "10 crew" comment was in jest? We met a lovely couple some years ago on an Oyster 64, a magnificent boat and like a palace inside, but the experienced (68-year old) owner needs a hired crew member to help him manage the boat. They then found that they were putting in to port all the time, renting a car and a hotel room for the crew, just so they could be alone and relax on their own boat....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Cross View Post
    but if you plan on crossing oceans you'll probably want a high centre cockpit
    Why? Not sure I agree with that. The motion is much better in an aft cockpit. You are closer to the waterline and further away from any spray.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobc View Post
    Why? Not sure I agree with that. The motion is much better in an aft cockpit. You are closer to the waterline and further away from any spray.
    I think most people feel more secure in a centre cockpit, but as with everything else it's all down to personal preference. My main point to the OP was that they need to establish what kind of cruising they plan to do, and where they want to go, first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Cross View Post
    I think most people feel more secure in a centre cockpit, but as with everything else it's all down to personal preference. My main point to the OP was that they need to establish what kind of cruising they plan to do, and where they want to go, first.
    A low centre cockpit, like a Rival 41 , sure; but most of the high cockpit, low coaming boats I've sailed leave me feeling quite insecure
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobc View Post
    I'd agree with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobc View Post
    Why? Not sure I agree with that. The motion is much better in an aft cockpit. You are closer to the waterline and further away from any spray.
    I have to say after many years sailing a aft cockpit boat and now having a CC , I think there not much difference other then the securities and privacy. Mind you I don't suffer from any kind of sea sickness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Cross View Post
    When looking at boats you'd be much better of using a healthy dose of "what DON'T I like about her". Buy a boat with your head not your heart.

    Regarding length, it depends where you plan to cruise and whether you'll be crossing oceans. I think (though I've not been there in a yacht) that in the Caribbean 40ft is likely to be small and 50ft pretty average, whilst in many places in the Med 40ft is average and 50ft is large. There are certainly many smaller places in the Med that you won't be able to get a 50ft yacht into.

    It also depends on what sort of cruising you plan to do. A 38ft boat will feel huge when cruising for a few months in the summer, but if you're living on her in the winter she'll seem tiny and cramped. If you plan to cruise the Med a stern cockpit with a sugar-scoop is ideal for the stern-to mooring here, but if you plan on crossing oceans you'll probably want a high centre cockpit.

    I hope you're not thinking of buying a big boat and using crew, and that the "10 crew" comment was in jest? We met a lovely couple some years ago on an Oyster 64, a magnificent boat and like a palace inside, but the experienced (68-year old) owner needs a hired crew member to help him manage the boat. They then found that they were putting in to port all the time, renting a car and a hotel room for the crew, just so they could be alone and relax on their own boat....
    Thanks Tony, and completely agree on the "what don't you like" as a rule of thumb. I've learnt over the years that if she makes me smile every time I see her, then she's probably to one for me, and I'd be willing to work with the little niggles!

    As to the cruising plan - it's open ended. I'm looking for my next full time 'home', which I expect to take me voyaging for the next few decades, so yes - the 10 crew was a jest. I've had the pleasure of sailing without owning for most of my life, apart from fireballs, bosuns, toppers, laser etc from my youth - and I'm pretty sure none of that ownership experience translates!

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