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  1. #41
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    She looks an absolute beast.........................
    It's nice to be important........ but more important to be nice

  2. #42
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spyro View Post
    maybe it's all steered from inside hence no proper cockpit and no protection from the waves that will be washing down the decks at 30 knots. It sure looks slippery.
    Precisely so. No permanent tiller at all apparently. Just autopilot.

    I mean, it's staggering stuff, but I'm not sure what the point of going down into the Southern Ocean is if you don't even get to turn the autopilot off for a couple of hours and just enjoy sending it at the helm.
    You never know, I might be right!

  3. #43
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    Is there any point in putting an astronaut in this capsule?

    I’m sure Alex Thomson has The Right Stuff, but...

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    There’s a vertical weathertight door with five dogs at the fore end of the ‘hatchway’ space which presumably does as the cockpit, and from the absence of a dog at the top I assume that the hinge is at the top and that it is spring loaded.

    Confronted with stuff that we don’t understand, many of us, and I am one, fall back on stuff that we do understand.

    I don’t understand why there is no “breakwater” let alone the now customary “steam locomotive cab” arrangement to provide shelter but I do wonder why that door isn’t centre wheel locking given the number of times it’s going to be opened and closed, often in a hurry.

    Centre wheel locking weathertight door:



    Conventional dogged weathertight door:

    Last edited by Kukri; 07-08-19 at 22:01.

  5. #45
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Turgidson View Post
    Not much headroom considering there is no cockpit to speak of. Need to see it on the water to fully appreciate it.
    My understanding is that you pretty much never stand up on these latest boats, it's to dangerous. Apparently the motion when they come on and off the foils is so violent that anyone in a space big enough to move far in gets thrown around and injured, hence no cockpit to speak of and the crew sail the boat from a padded seat wedged into a corner somewhere! One does have to ask if the limiting factor is the design parameters of the boat, or the ability of the crew to survive....... Exciting sailing anyhow.

  6. #46
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    I love it as I have loved all the Hugo Boss boats over the years. I cannot wait to see how she does in interim races before the next VG. Exciting times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flaming View Post
    Precisely so. No permanent tiller at all apparently. Just autopilot.

    I mean, it's staggering stuff, but I'm not sure what the point of going down into the Southern Ocean is if you don't even get to turn the autopilot off for a couple of hours and just enjoy sending it at the helm.
    Now, if it could just have roller furling main and fore sail with electric winches it might not actually have a need for anyone to be on board. That would be interesting. Alex could just control it from his phone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dunedin View Post
    Lots of benefits have and are still filtering down rapidly to cruisers, including
    - autopilots able to handle all conditions, often better than a human helm
    - faster and drama free downwind sailing with wider sterns and twin rudder
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    I would just be happy if Raymarine would designe a tiller pilot that did not leak and NASA marine designed displays that did mot mist up in the first 6 months
    apart from that do you honestly believe anything on Hugo Boss will have the slightest effect on general pleasure sailing--i think not😂
    That being said the boat really is a fantastic bit of kit
    It is all down to the fact that my wife does not understand me !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dunedin View Post
    Though the deep narrow boats with very long bow and stern overhangs, like the J Classes and the Metre classes, were driven by race rating rules - which led to some seeing these as good “classic” characteristics in subsequent cruising yachts, even though cruising and working boats prior to that had more practical plumb bows, and often sterns. (Ironic that the plumb bow with sprit, fashionable in modern race and cruising boats, is seen as not “classic” when it is in fact more traditional.)
    I have often pondered the same thought.
    Look at a traditional smack/pilot cutter.
    Plumb bow
    Very flat and wide stern (ignoring the keel)
    Long bowsprit
    Multiple head sails
    Gaff holding out a flat top topsail creating a high aspect ratio main.
    Flush deck

    Now look at the latest IMOCA shapes.....

    Material technology has allowed the boat to become lighter and put the ballast lower down where it does the work. But there are a lot of similarities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Minn View Post
    Are the rudders set up to kick back aft if they strike an obstruction?
    Perhaps the foils will be, too.
    Yes they can kick up ..
    But more important.. the windward one is lifted to reduce drag.

    I get the strong impression you really don’t like it?
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